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I don't use apple's stuff but alternatives to X86 could be the future. The one thing they need is compatibility with X86 software otherwise mass adoption is heavily crippled. It doesn't matter as much for Apple's stuff since their whole ecosystem is under strict control but for general purpose consumer hardware that compatibility is required first.
Apple already stopped selling x86 devices and even the stuff that is not under their control seems to work fine
You seem to not be using open source software packaged for multiple architectures or which can be built for your binary target. Most people will be just using a browser and an office suite.
Yea, obviously, that's the case for most people. A lot of people for who a chromebook would be enough would not be effected, yea but for example software that isn't getting new updates and like all gaming would just not work on other architectures currently.
I have a friend who said on his M2 MacBook, even before the Apple Silicon build of Factorio released, the game ran better in x86 emulation than on his previous machine. And much cooler.
The battery life and thermals that come out of these powerful ARM chips are amazing, and anything that can be multithreaded is going to perform brilliantly on these chips.
Obviously for stuff where thermals and power consumption aren’t as important the gains aren’t as large, but I can’t remember the last time I worked on an actual desktop machine rather than a laptop with or without a docking station.
That heavily depends on what the previous machine was. Like factorio runs on my laptop without taxing the system much more than just idling and on my desktop I can't even tell it's running based on performance monitoring. So yea, I'm not sure factorio is a good indicator.
Sure, definitely not a perfect benchmark. I’m not saying it’s going to outperform a current x86 machine in general. But if it can perform as well as or better than a relatively powerful x86 machine from a few years prior, while emulating, that’s impressive.
But I don’t know, I don’t have a MacBook.
I'm pretty sure the old AMD APUs from the Bulldozer era can run factorio and that's like a decade old.
Like sure, it's some metric but I'm pretty sure any computer produced currently can run factorio.
I’ve got a high end Intel MacBook Pro and a low end M1 Mac Mini. The Mac Mini runs x86 apps live Civ 6 faster and smoother than the Intel MacBook can.
I don't doubt it, Apple has never had good gaming performance. But a non apple laptop in the same price range with X86 aimed at gaming can run it a lot better.
The performances is not inherent to ARM, x86 can definitely catch up to this.
In theory yes if they can handle thermals, but I don’t see that happening.