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Israel's criminal defendant prime minister, more focused on saving his incompetent far-right government than saving the hostages who have spent seven months trapped in Gaza, is doing everything he can to torpedo Israel's last and best chance at bringing the hostages home

"Hysteria for political reasons," Minister Benny Gantz termed the statement issued over the weekend by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (also known as "the diplomatic official"), in which he reiterated that with or without a temporary pause in the fighting for the release of our hostages, "We will enter Rafah and eliminate the remaining Hamas battalions."

Later, before the end of Shabbat, Netanyahu sent another announcement, in which he denied reports saying Israel had agreed to a cease-fire as part of a deal.

Netanyahu had hoped that the Egyptian proposal, which was more far-reaching than anything he had been willing to accept in the past, would be rejected by Hamas. Over the weekend, when the negotiations took a positive turn, Netanyahu found himself in distress, as was expressed by his flurry of statements. Given our familiarity with his family environment, including his pampered son on the front in Miami, his fright is indeed understandable.

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[-] Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

last part as in 'They also shut down AlJezeera news and Israel claims they are the ''only democracy in the Middle East'''

they have the same laws for all citizens. jews, muslims, druze, etc.
palestinians living in the west bank are citizens of the pa (or jordan), not of israel.
the situation in area c of the west bank is a result of the failed oslo accords and bibi's policy of "status quo".
article by prof mohammed wattad, who is an israeli-arab (his own words)
israel's declaration of independence
basic laws of israel

shutting down a state backed media group that has ties to the muslim brotherhood (hamas is a branch of theirs), from a hostile state that hosts the billionaire leaders of hamas, is similar to the shutting down of rt in europe - which is a state backed media group of a hostile state.

in israel you don't vote for the prime minister, you vote for a party. as part of the coalition creating process, the pm is chosen as part of the agreements between parties.
one of the pm's parties in 2022, naftali bennet, had much less votes than the likud ever had.
basic law: the government
knesset

posting something twice and then replying to someone with a similar link isn't "spamming".
pointing out the reality of this specific action / situation isn't "defending" anything. that's a very black and white view of things.
same as when i criticize a state it doesn't instantly mean i'm against it or hate it.

[-] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

they have the same laws for all citizens. jews, muslims, druze, etc. palestinians living in the west bank are citizens of the pa (or jordan), not of israel. the situation in area c of the west bank is a result of the failed oslo accords and bibi’s policy of “status quo”.

So first of all, Wikipedia is not a trustable source at all and therefore dismissed. This is because everyone can edit the Wikipedia page. For example, I can edit a page and then claim it is true. There's no one really who keeps tabs on how trustable it is. Not only that, Wikipedia even says that one of the pages you gave is not really trustable ''This page does not provide license information'' and the page can be deleted. Thus not trustable.

Wikipedia is a good starting point but not a (trustable) source to back up claims.

My point stays the same; Israel is on paper ''democratic'' but in reality they are not. You cannot be democratice while having:

  • Apartheid system.
  • Unfair judgement to Palestinian people.
  • Unfair sending Palestinians to prison (many whom are children).

And everything else they do to the Palestinian people.

There are whistleblowers on how Israel litteraly tortures Palestinian people, article of this is the 3rd one. Do you consider this an actual ''democratic'' state?

  1. Wikipedia is a wiki, meaning anyone can edit nearly any page and improve articles immediately. You do not need to register to do this, and anyone who has edited is known as a Wikipedian or editor.
  2. Declaration of Independence (Israel) & This page does not provide license information.
  3. Strapped down, blindfolded, held in diapers: Israeli whistleblowers detail abuse of Palestinians in shadowy detention center

shutting down a state backed media group that has ties to the muslim brotherhood (hamas is a branch of theirs), from a hostile state that hosts the billionaire leaders of hamas, is similar to the shutting down of rt in europe - which is a state backed media group of a hostile state.

Huge claim but no link to a trustable source. I'm honestly not sure whether this is true however then here's my question: Why shutting it down now and not decades ago? If it is true, it means they knew it already and never done anything about it until Israel decided to commit another ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people and worse, genocide.

posting something twice and then replying to someone with a similar link isn’t “spamming”. pointing out the reality of this specific action / situation isn’t “defending” anything. that’s a very black and white view of things. same as when i criticize a state it doesn’t instantly mean i’m against it or hate it.

I do not understand what you mean here nor to what you are referring to.

[-] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

I don’t have time to give a complete argument back (yet) but where are your sources for your claims?

I’ll respond in a day or two entirely.

[-] Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 6 months ago

fair enough.
added some, will add more later.

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