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I get the point your trying to prove but i don’t think it’s fair to compare these 2 as they are meant for different things and also brings in the assumption that all American craftsman vehicles are 2500HD’s, which is not true.
Now I agree, people using the one on the left specifically as a daily driver is actually overkill and are not using it for what it’s supposed to be used for. The one on the left is a 2500HD. They are SUPPOSED to be used for hauling and carrying equipment. The crew cab is meant to also transport the crew that is for said equipment.
The one the right is specifically meant what appears to be lighter duty use and hauling. I agree that people should use the right tool for the job. I find the one on the right to be very practical. But for the sake of this post as a means to compare Japanese craftsman vehicles to American.
You should actually show something actually comparable. Like a ford ranger with a standard cab. Which might be about the same size and power. Maybe even the same bed size. Not something that has HD (Heavy duty) in its name.
The only places I've seen trucks like the 2500HD are north America, Australia and Thailand. They usually have only one, or rarely two people people in them. They never have a significant load in the bed. Everywhere else uses vans and light trucks and gets along just fine..
Yea these vehicles are more prominent in North America. Again, people don’t always use them as they are intended.
It seems like your implying there is no need for a 2500HD whatsoever and that everything can be handled with a light duty vehicle. If not, then I’m not exactly sure what point your trying to make. People who use these vehicles with there intended purpose are going to be seen in use with their intended purpose.
Also keep in mind that just because YOU don’t see one with a load, doesn’t mean the owner doesn’t have a good reason for having one. If a light duty van or truck is getting along just fine. It’s probably being used for light duty tasks. But if you use a light duty to haul say a fully loaded 3 car trailer or move large farm equipment, your going to completely ruin the vehicle.
My point was that they completely absent from most countries. My hypothesis being that if there was a common task these vehicles were particularly suited to they would be more ubiquitous. I can't help but think their success is due to marketing and masculine appeal rather than practicality.
Is there a fat boy option? Genuinely asking a question. I'm 6'5" and a 300 pound linebacker. Small cars are so hard to get into. Honda fit was OK but I had to always get in but first and tilt my head all they way to make it in. The space behind me was a dead seat because a person would not be able to fit there legs. Mid size SUVs are the same, small trucks, even full size sedans are so hard to get into because of my height and they are so close to the ground. My knees always hurt after a while driving because my knees are against the dash. I got a single cab full sized truck but with the prospect of a spawn coming soon, my wife and I are looking for a different option. Thank you any input.
You are correct, however most people -- around here at least, buy them because "big truck go vroom" and some sort of macho complex. You can tell who has a truck for work and who has a truck for looks by how they keep their trucks.
What really annoys me are the pavement princesses - the giant pickups with the lift kits & such, that obviously haven't ever been driven off of pavement. Bonus if it's a coal-roller.
I'd understand when the big trucks are used for work and are built that way because the job demands it. But too often, they're used as prosthetic penises.