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[-] lloram239@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

While it’s humorous how personally you are taking critiques of, chatGPT,

That's because I see idiotic takes on AI every day and it gets annoying. Most people criticizing ChatGPT haven't even bothered to test the things they complain about, but just parrot along stuff they heard elsewhere.

Conversationally. Since it has no concept of what 2+2=5 means.

You have a fundamental lack of understanding how ChatGPT work apparently. ChatGPT gets math wrong because it never sees the digits. Everything is tokens to ChatGPT. What ChatGPT is doing is like trying to do math with a dictionary, it fundamentally doesn't work because numbers are not words and there is no dictionary large enough to hold all the numbers in existence. The surprising part isn't that ChatGPT gets math wrong, but how much of it it gets correct despite the odds being stacked against it. Also small stuff like 2+2 it gets almost always correct. Models that operate on characters are in the works.

Even though it has no memory of previous conversations, you believe it somehow retains understanding of concepts it discusses.

It can handle a ~2000-25000 word text prompt. Everything in there it has a reasonably good chance of understanding, everything not it there doesn't exist at all from ChatGPTs viewpoint. The fact that it can't remember previous discussions is completely irrelevant to the matter if it can understand or not.

Even though it searches the internet to provide it the knowledge to answer questions,

It doesn't. ChatGPT never had Internet access.

which is why it can cite sources that don’t exist

Here is the fun part: It cites plausible sounding non-existing sources because it understands, it has to to accomplish that. Imagining plausible future states of the world is impossible without having a solid understanding of how the world works. That those future states are imaginary comes from a lack of feedback and interaction with the real world, not from a lack of understanding. ChatGPT can't tell you if a book exists in the real world, it has no access to a library, but it can tell you what makes a plausible name for a book.

[-] Quatity_Control@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

If it can't see numbers, then it isn't as smart as your $5 calculator or the majority of the human race. If you can convince it it's wrong, it's even more distinctly less intelligent.

It barely passes as a language model and only passes as a conversational model. Having citations doesn't mean it understands citations. Having incorrect citations quite simply proves that it doesn't understand what a citation is meant for. It does not understand the concept.

ChatGPT is pre trained on a number of directories. All of them sampled pre 2021. Nothing after that date exists for chatGPT. That isn't intelligence. It doesn't possess the intelligence to understand the nature of its databases. And if you really don't think the databases it was trained on came from the internet, please show us a source.

It's continually entertaining how you continue to point out the substantial limitations of a language model AI and yet insist it's showing more intelligence than an average brain that's has none of those limitations and achieves more accurate and better results any minute of every day. And then claiming it understands concepts when that concept itself is not part of its architecture is really astounding. I can almost identify the exact neuron that's misfiring in your brain.

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