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[-] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

We use them all the time to hunt for food. However, the weirdos that think they can rise up against the state are something else.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

What if it isn't the state so much as fascist militias that worry me the most? Is it ok to want weapons to defend myself and my friends from them?

[-] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Sure. Just make sure it's as tightly regulated as say, cars.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

Imagine a future, maybe January of 2025 and we start seeing laws classifying trans (or gay) people as mentally ill. Gun confiscations affecting only "undesirables". People that actually really need those weapons for self defense. People that are harassed by ever emboldened fascist gangs. People the police treat dismissively at best.

I don't love guns, or even have them for their own sake, or because of some dusty parchment written by hypocrites. I would love to live in a world where nobody has guns, but holy shit do we not live in such a world right now. I would urge you to reconsider your political priorities before you go harming (only) the people you probably want to help.

[-] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

As a progressive in favor of responsible gun ownership, I stand by my point. Guns are fine. Regulation is good. The gangs you are worried about aren't going to be able to look up your registration. I'm from one of the most gun tootinest states.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago

Those gangs often have some membership overlap with local law enforcement, or at the very least, common ideological aims. I can easily imagine a scenario where a lefty trans journalist carries a pistol for good cause. This journalist is a target for local hate groups, who are buddies with local cops. Those cops could use a law like the one I mentioned to disarm this person, leaving them defenseless, and perhaps even informing the hate group of the change in status.

This is a hypothetical scenario, but one I don't see as far-fetched. I would have to say that in general however, I would still be against such a national registry even under less threatening circumstances. For one, I'm unsure how effective it would be in relation to the types of gun crime we see. For another, I just generally prefer that data (especially sensitive data) not be collected in bulk. Maybe a compromise and treat it like HIPAA data?

this post was submitted on 16 May 2024
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