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submitted 5 months ago by mozz@mbin.grits.dev to c/politics@beehaw.org

Fascinating little window

  • Almost 60% of respondents wrongly believe that the country is in a recession (it hasn’t been since 2020)
  • 55% believe the economy is shrinking (it is growing)
  • 49% say unemployment is at a 50-year high (it’s close to a 50-year low)
  • 58% said the reason the economy is worsening is due to Biden’s mismanagement
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[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 12 points 5 months ago

It’s interesting to me that the reaction is so unanimous

Like practically every single person’s reaction is “fuck the metrics, economy only works for big business, don’t they know I’m hurting.” It’s not like a variety of different thoughts or reactions or anything related to the disparity between the polling that was the content of the article. Literally it could be any story about “economy of US” and most of the comments in this article would apply to it exactly equally as well.

(Actually one person did criticize the fact that it was Fox that wrote the story)

Anyway I just thought it was a little interesting. Also look at the main page; most stories have like 0 comments, or 3 or something, and then all the “Biden” or “economy” stories have a big bunch of comments, with pretty much the exact identical conversations going on in them

It is interesting, to me

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 11 points 5 months ago

It is interesting! I wonder if it’s due to different definitions of what economy means. To me the economy includes cost-of-living.

[-] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It’s interesting to me that the reaction is so unanimous

That should tell you that it's not some politicized reaction, it's the actual lived experience of the Average Joe. Go out on the street and ask people, and you'll get the same reaction. If humans are all unanimously telling you one thing, and your metrics say something else, is it more likely that the humans are all collaboratively lying, or that the metrics are wrong?

Also look at the main page; most stories have like 0 comments, or 3 or something, and then all the “Biden” or “economy” stories have a big bunch of comments, with pretty much the exact identical conversations going on in them

Right now on front page I see only 3 posts with 20+ comments, and none are about Biden or the economy:

  1. Bing outage
  2. Microplastic in balls
  3. Scientist harassment

(actually, it looks like this comment pushed this post to 20 technically)

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 4 points 5 months ago

That should tell you that it's not some politicized reaction, it's the actual lived experience of the Average Joe.

That's one interpretation, yes. There are others.

Right now on front page I see only 3 posts with 20+ comments, and none are about Biden or the economy:

  • Bing outage
  • Microplastic in balls
  • Scientist harassment

(actually, it looks like this comment pushed this post to 20 technically)

So I actually meant the /c/politics "front page"; I should have used some other type of word.

Here's the list of stories currently on the politics sub:

  • Economics, 23 comments, 56% are repetitions of basically exactly the same comment
  • Housing, 0 comments
  • Biden is out of touch, 30 comments, comments are a big shitshow of "Biden's the worst" "Trump is worse" "Biden's the worst" "Trump is worst"
  • Palestine protests, 0 comments
  • Brexit / Trump, 0 comments
  • Restrictions on voting, 0 comments
  • Israel, 0 comments
  • Rudy Giuliani, 4 comments
  • Biden + economy, 12 comments most of whom are calling out the OP article for being shit
[-] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That’s one interpretation, yes. There are others.

Just say you think it's all a psyop campaign when people disagree with you. 🙄

[-] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I mean it is a common sentiment that has been measured:

https://web.archive.org/web/20240502151808/https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/12/opinion/biden-trump-consumer-confidence-economy.html

Beyond that if you are insinuating that it is a coordinated campaign of people doing this, I mean yeah that's probably true to some extent. But the reason why they are targeting that is because they know it is a weak point.

So posting an article showing that the cost of living is going down would make that kind of sentiment less justified.

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