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The Mac vs. PC war is back on?
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this post was submitted on 19 May 2024
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Apple hardware is overpriced and they go out of their way to make it unrepairable.
This is the reason I will never buy an apple device and go out of my way to (try and) convince people in my circle not to buy apple devices.
The ONLY reason I have a Mac for work is the Adobe suite. As a designer, there is no substitute (GIMP and Inkscape are nice, but they don’t replace Photoshop and Illustrator plus whatever else you get with the sub).
All my home stuff has been swapped over to Linux years ago. If Adobe ever decided to make a native Linux cc suite, I’d dump apple too, but there we are.
The Adobe ecosystem is finally starting to bother me enough to bounce. But I've worked with these programs for 30 years, so moving to Davinci and Krita is going to be a thing. And afaik, there's no real replacement for After Effects.
I am debating the jump to affinity for my department. Weighing the pros and cons now. I use it at home for personal stuff, and it’s fantastic. It still doesn’t get me onto Linux, but at least it’s not Adobe.
Interesting! Never heard of Affinity, so that's an alternative to InDesign/Illustrator it looks like? I ditched Windows for Linux (Mint at the moment) this year, but I honestly haven't even sat at that computer in six months, so...
Yeah, an alternative made by the company Serif. No subscriptions, buy it and use it. Replacements for Photoshop, Illustrator, and InDesign. I keep waiting for them to make an Acrobat alternative so I don’t need to source it from somewhere else (and the rest of the company can pickup the product and use it for commenting and proofing).
pirated photoshop works well on linux
The only apple things I've ever owned was an IPod. And I never paid full price for that shit.
You are confusing ‘costs a lot of money’ with overpriced.
Yes, Apple hardware costs a lot of money, but you do get what you pay for.
My current MacBook Pro (M1 Max, 64GB RAM) is simply the best machine I’ve ever used. It’s a no-compromise laptop. It’s fast, chews through everything I throw at it (which is a lot, I use it as a development machine). It never slow down, it never gets hot, I haven’t heard the fan run ever (not sure if it is just that silent or it simply never needs to turn on). The screen is amazing. The trackpad is amazing. The sound is amazing. The build quality is rock solid. The battery life is insane. I plug in a single thunderbolt cable and it charges my machine, connects to gbit ethernet, my audio system and drives 2 high-res monitors (5k2k and 4k).
Every time PC people claim they can get a ‘better computer’ for less it’s always some compromise. “This one has a much faster GPU and is cheaper”, sure, it also weights 8 kilos and runs for 20 minute on a full charge, is made of cheap plastic, has a screen with terrible viewing angles a crappy trackpad and sounds like a fighter jet with full afterburners on every time you put a little load on the system.
Every time I hear the argument you get what you pay for with apple, I'm curious if this fucking thing does your taxes and makes you coffee too.
Simple economies of scale. They are expensive to produce because they don’t make a lot of them. The intended audience for the monitor it goes with doesn’t need a stand, and that monitor is a niche product to begin with. Neither is meant for the consumer market to begin with and the monitor, even with stand, is cheaper than many of the alternatives.
this has got to be a troll post
Lmao apple is the same company that points their heat sink fans at the glue that holds the entire MacBook together. Do some deep dives on their hardware. You only get what you pay for if you pay for the logo, which is the case for most Apple users.
I've had Mac, I've had Windows, and I still prefer present day enshittified fucking Microsoft. Apple only "pays off" if you utilize their entire connectivity suite which, spoiler alert, is just as bad an idea as Google-ifying your entire life except it's also more expensive. MacBook + iPhone + Apple Music + Apple Video + iCloud is the ecosystem they want you to live in, and they put in a ton of effort to make that the only viable option if you use their products. Everything is proprietary, and they control the prices. You think that laptop charger on their site is worth $100? It is to you, because you need it to charge your shit and theyre the only ones who sell them. Any other machine would have the same hardware for $20-$50. People who buy Apple products are a) power users whose idea of computer capabilities is about 15 years old and b) people who buy Apple because everyone else has them. Better products exist. If you think your manufacturer of choice is the objective best at everything it does, you need to stop drinking the Flavor-Aid. I don't care what manufacturer, but Apple is the worst offender by far of this.
Cut the umbilical cord. Free yourself.
i think they aren't the price to performance ratio is laughable and their software is a bunch of garbage plastered on top of bsd an Os they didn't even create
Name 1 laptop that has a better price/performance than a MacBook Pro. I’ll wait…
my thinkpad??? it runs all day does any workloads I chuck at it, has upgradable ram and storage and cost me 80€
Good joke.
Im not kidding though. It's a t470p if you wanna buy one. Im sure youll be able to find one and still have some cash left if you sell your mac. =^}
And how do you consider that a comparable machine? Slow/hot Intel CPU, slow GPU, low-res screen, the ‘upgradable’ RAM can only be upgraded to 32GB (so pretty much useless), slow SSD, weighs more than a MacBook even with the smallest battery option, despite the fact it’s made of plastic. No thunderbolt. It can’t even drive my monitor at 60Hz.
idk what you are on about but ill ask you to point to an apple device which contains this level of functionality(which btw idk what you are on about this is more than a usable machine)on the apple store apple seems to delusionally think even a little wrist band is worth more tho so idk what you'll find https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MX423AM/A/45mm-pride-edition-braided-solo-loop-size-6
A ‘more than usable’ machine that doesn’t even support more than 32GB RAM? That’s not a serious machine, that’s a toy.