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[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I saw both of those posts. The one thing I'll say about that first one is that it's only 3 hours old, and there are already several comments dismissing it as a 'Biden hate-boner' and a number saying 'yea this is fucked, but I'm voting Biden anyway because Trump is so much worse" apropos of nothing.

Yeah but they're allowed to say that, no? That's way different from saying "how dare you criticize Biden" or anything, and it's still notable to me that the top consensus view is that Biden is being a dickhead about it.

Honestly this, to me, is the most depressing thing about the shills being here -- like I would love to be in an environment where all of the people who don't like Israel killing as they've always done (which is, as far as I can tell, almost all of us) can say "Jesus Christ what a shitbag" when Biden gets up and says something like this, without needing to add in all these little qualifiers that we need now, because the discourse has become so distorted.

dismissing real critiques with electoral nonsense about zero-sum FPTP essentialism

I think it's unacceptable to let people evade addressing them just because there's a boogeyman lurking around the corner.

Are people evading addressing Gaza? Is there like a shortage of posts about how it's still happening and how Biden is complicit? This just sounds like a strawman to me. Like who here is cheering for the FPTP system (instead of just pointing out that it's a reality for this election and we should act accordingly)? Is there like a shortage of coverage of Gaza or the US's involvement in it under Biden? Most of the stuff I see talking about any of this gets upvoted and treated pretty sensibly, not like "evaded" or anything.

this post was submitted on 20 May 2024
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