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[-] ricdeh@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago

Incorporating parts from a free and open-source Unix-like operating system does not make your OS FOSS. Apple would be the last company to contribute their MacOS source code.

[+] Fades@lemmy.world -17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You missed the point of my comment which was open source is not antithetical to Apple and it’s not absurd to use a mac to work on open source software.

To imply it is absurd to believe in open source and use a mac as part of development is fucking ridiculous. As I said in my comment open source has always had a place at Apple both historically and currently.

I used the FreeBSD connection to illustrate how open source is at the core of Apple sw. We don’t have to use that as an example though:

Open source software is at the heart of Apple platforms and developer tools. Apple manages the following projects and encourages your contribution.

https://opensource.apple.com/projects/

As I said in my original comment, it is not antithetical to use a mac to dev FOSS. I’m not saying Apple is the goddamn FOSS Jesus

[-] Corbin@programming.dev 6 points 5 months ago

You're cheering for exploitation of a commons.

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

No im not cheering about anything, my entire fucking point is Apple is not antithetical to open source.

It’s that goddamn simple, it your making some sort of fan boy anti Apple war out of this and it’s honestly pathetic.

[-] Corbin@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago

As a hardware hacker, I've experienced Apple's anti-FLOSS behavior. I was there when Apple was trying to discourage iPodLinux. In contrast, when we wanted to upstream support for the Didj, LeapFrog gave us documentation and their kernel hackers joined our IRC channel. It's the same reason that people prefer ATI/AMD to nVidia, literally anybody to Broadcom, etc.

Your "entire fucking point" is obvious from the top-level comment you replied to; you've taken offense to somebody pointing out that writing FLOSS on Apple hardware is oxymoronic. And it's a bad point, given that such a FLOSS hacker is going to use Homebrew or Nix in order to get a decent userland that hasn't been nerfed repeatedly by an owner with a GPLv3 allergy and a fetish for controlling filesystem layouts. Darwin is a weird exception, not one of the easy-to-handle BSDs.

Also, what, are you not anti-Apple? Do you really think that a fashion company is going to reward you for being fake-angry on Lemmy?

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

You missed the point of my comment which was open source is not antithetical to Apple and it’s not absurd to use a mac to work on open source software.

so your argument is that apple doesn't actively oppress your ability to program? And that it supports open source because it leeched off free bsd?

are you actually stupid, or are you on the apple payroll?

Supporting open source involves contributing to the amount of software available by open sourcing your own work.

Leeching off open source software is not support