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[-] PoisonIvy@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 5 months ago

I am not saying that it couldn’t be better. I’m simply saying that it will never be better.

Do you people read the things you write lol.

[-] schwim@lemm.ee -2 points 5 months ago

I do, lol. The potential for change is there lol but there will never be an event lol that makes it occur. lol.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago
[-] schwim@lemm.ee -2 points 5 months ago

Well, I'm no historian but from what I've read, the one thing that caused uprisings was a tipping point that made life practically unsustainable for a majority of people and those people had lived a life with enough strife to have a backbone. The powerful have learned from the past and know that minorities and outliers can be fucked with all they want but they need to actually manipulate the larger masses, make sure they have enough comforts to stay fat and happy and they just rake in the profits/power. Just take a look at what passes for news now for an example of this.

This post is a good example of what our new keyboard activism consists of. In the past, where enough people might have gathered together to start forcing change, now, a huge number of people go to their favorite social network, post some bullshit non-factual, baseless meme and that gives them their dopamine rush, no uprising needed. If they do that enough times(just check the OP's post history for veracity, content and frequency) and they get the same feel-good chemical that someone might get from improving their country's political system without actually doing a single thing to improve their situation.

We are a soft, easily led and frightened populace. As long as someone is there to tell us they'll protect us and allow us to keep our guns, cars, big tvs and phones, we will let them do practically anything they want to us. The US will never see the numbers of people willing to struggle for forced change.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

Do you think these treats that placate the Workers in first world countries are sustainable? If the vast majority of these treats are manufactured in areas where cost of living is kept low so as to lower prices and raise profits, don't you believe that these workers are not getting their treats?

Why is it that Socialism props up fairly frequently in countries that the US and other western powers depend on for cheap production, forcing the US to retaliate?

Capitalism itself is unsustainable, even if it appears to be within the Imperial Core. The treats delay revolution, yes, but the treats themselves aren't going to be as cheap as they are forever, as the global south organizes against their exploiters.

Once the treats run dry, you will see revolution in the US.

[-] schwim@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm fairly confident it won't be in my lifetime so, no, I don't think I'll see revolution and I don't think it will be revolution but rather a toppling of the system simply because of unsustainability. All empires crumble eventually, this one will be no different. That doesn't mean any of the masses instigated change. They will have just sat on their ass posting their memes and bitching on Facebook until someone quit paying the power bill.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

Why? Vibes? Or actual analysis of trends and historical events?

[-] schwim@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

I don't think anything I do could be considered analysis. I'm just fairly observant and have always paid attention to how a population reacts to what I consider atrocities towards the masses and we have become increasingly ok with what's done to us. I have not yet seen the trend reverse in any meaningful way.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

Have you considered that analysis of data, historical trends, and broader systems may be more accurate than gut feelings based on one person's observations?

[-] schwim@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Well, I feel that's obvious. It's also why you will never find me posting some ridiculous AI image laden meme in a community espousing my beliefs. The only reason you happen to know them is because you asked. I would never try to convince a group of people that what I believe is the One True Belief as I lack the ego for that. It's just my take on what I see around me.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Sure. You came here to express your voice, after all. However, I do think that it's largely unproductive to speak loudly or definitively on matters you haven't yet thoroughly investigated. Asking questions is one thing, but having beliefs based on nothing but passive observation individually seems a bit rocky.

Perhaps leading with a question and sharing your current understanding would be a more productive way to frame a discussion?

[-] schwim@lemm.ee -2 points 5 months ago

Perhaps leading with a question and sharing your current understanding would be a more productive way to frame a discussion?

I'll save that for a legitimate post. The OP never had productivity in mind with this one.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago
[-] schwim@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

To honor and respect the the OP's intention that this be a shitpost without substance.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago
[-] schwim@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago
[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

Got it. Well, can't really move beyond that if you're primarily discussing vibes.

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