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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by SpaceCadet@feddit.nl to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

I feel like we need to talk about Lemmy's massive tankie censorship problem. A lot of popular lemmy communities are hosted on lemmy.ml. It's been well known for a while that the admins/mods of that instance have, let's say, rather extremist and onesided political views. In short, they're what's colloquially referred to as tankies. This wouldn't be much of an issue if they didn't regularly abuse their admin/mod status to censor and silence people who dissent with their political beliefs and for example, post things critical of China, Russia, the USSR, socialism, ...

As an example, there was a thread today about the anniversary of the Tiananmen Massacre. When I was reading it, there were mostly posts critical of China in the thread and some whataboutist/denialist replies critical of the USA and the west. In terms of votes, the posts critical of China were definitely getting the most support.

I posted a comment in this thread linking to "https://archive.ph/2020.07.12-074312/https://imgur.com/a/AIIbbPs" (WARNING: graphical content), which describes aspects of the atrocities that aren't widely known even in the West, and supporting evidence. My comment was promptly removed for violating the "Be nice and civil" rule. When I looked back at the thread, I noticed that all posts critical of China had been removed while the whataboutist and denialist comments were left in place.

This is what the modlog of the instance looks like:

Definitely a trend there wouldn't you say?

When I called them out on their one sided censorship, with a screenshot of the modlog above, I promptly received a community ban on all communities on lemmy.ml that I had ever participated in.

Proof:

So many of you will now probably think something like: "So what, it's the fediverse, you can use another instance."

The problem with this reasoning is that many of the popular communities are actually on lemmy.ml, and they're not so easy to replace. I mean, in terms of content and engagement lemmy is already a pretty small place as it is. So it's rather pointless sitting for example in /c/linux@some.random.other.instance.world where there's nobody to discuss anything with.

I'm not sure if there's a solution here, but I'd like to urge people to avoid lemmy.ml hosted communities in favor of communities on more reasonable instances.

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[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 84 points 3 months ago

If there’s a community that only exists there, be the change you want to see: create it somewhere else and give it time to grow. You’re not the only one making this complaint about .ml, and you probably wont’ be the last.

Maybe we should open a thread on !fedigrow@lemm.ee about this

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 39 points 3 months ago

TIL that community existed. thanks!

[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 17 points 3 months ago

What? I thought I pinged you there a while ago! Anyway, have a look, there should be some topics you might find interesting

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 12 points 3 months ago

May have been my LW account? I mostly use it for my mod role, but I'll switch to it sometimes and browse all there to look for new communities I might like. Perhaps it was that account and I only interacted from there? (My memory is terrible these days 😆)

[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 6 points 3 months ago

I don't remember, you'll see a post with a lot of pings, one of your accounts should be there 😄

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 4 points 3 months ago

Did you ping in the post body or comments? I learned a month or two ago from someone that mentions only generate a notification if they're in the comments.

[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 5 points 3 months ago

I made sure to ping in the comment for this reason. Actually now I'm curious, let me have a look

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 2 points 3 months ago

I got the one you just sent, but it was after I had resolved the community locally (and subscribed). Perhaps the mentions don't work if they're to a community the other person's instance doesn't know about?

[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 3 points 3 months ago

To be honest I might have forgotten to ping you actually (maybe because you were less active for a bit and I basically mentioned people when I saw their posts in All?) but at least now it is solved!

this post was submitted on 05 Jun 2024
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