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[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee -4 points 5 months ago

A 3% cap is absurdly low. While people are saying "don't threaten me with a good time," this also means there are going to be fewer new units. Although considering how few units many CA cities have been adding (some have even removed units), it might not have too much of an effect on that regard. I would could see maintenance on existing units dropping and many more unofficial units popping up.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 7 points 5 months ago

Fewer units, but more home ownership.

We don't want to be a nation of renters. It's not good for society; it's only good for a minority of individuals.

And fewer new units? Where are you pulling that from? It just means developers will be building for home owners, not renters. Like they did back in the Good Old Days, when young people could actually realistically consider buying a home someday. You know, re-creating the conditions that the younger generations are always bitching about that boomers had which aren't available anymore. Back when not all the land was owned by a few giant corporations.

Fuck renters. Fuck them right in the ear. They can all go eat a dick.

Disclaimer: I've owned every house I've lived in since 1998, and even with that collateral, every purchase has gotten harder to find and more expensive. So much of America is owned by property developers, it's disgusting.

Fuck. Renters.

[-] ruse8145@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 months ago

You...blame the people who can't afford to own for renting and also blame that same situation for making it harder for you to buy? You seem to be missing the point here.

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

Not sure how their unhinged comment is being upvoted.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago

Noun: renter |ren-tur|

  1. Someone who pays rent to use land or a building or a car that is owned by someone else • the landlord can evict a renter who doesn't pay the rent = tenant

  2. An owner of property who receives payment for its use by another person

It's not my fault the stupid word means both people renting, and the owners who rent the place out. I'd hoped the context would have made it clear to which I was referring, in each use.

[-] ruse8145@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 months ago

Lol I've never in my life heard a landlord referred to as a renter. It's a funny situation but I have to say this ones on you :p

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

Fuck renters. Fuck them right in the ear. They can all go eat a dick.

So you hate people who cannot afford to plunk down thousands of dollars to get a place. Cool. /s

[-] sxan@midwest.social 0 points 5 months ago

I hate that "renters" mean both people who rent, and rent out. It's a stupid word.

There is a place for rentals, but it's gone far beyond reasonable. Property developers are responsible for the housing crisis and the inability for younger generations to even contemplate owning a home.

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

In English we use the term landlord. Renter is generally understood to mean someone who rents.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago

In British English, "renter" - means both (in the OED). So, you mean "in American."

But, yes; I concede landlord may have been a better term, although not all renters who lease properties to others are also landlords; for one example, subletters are renters (in both meanings of the word) but not landlords.

Renters (landlords) are necessary; the real problem I'm railing against is property developers turning single family homes (or apartments[^1]) and farmland into rental properties.

[^1] in 'Murican, the word "apartment" has rental connotations. I'm using it here in the "a unit in a larger building of units, either owned or rented out."

[-] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago

In British English, "renter" - means both (in the OED). So, you mean "in American."

But, yes; I concede landlord may have been a better term, although not all renters who lease properties to others are also landlords; for one example, subletters are renters (in both meanings of the word) but not landlords.

Renters (landlords) are necessary; the real problem I'm railing against is property developers turning single family homes (or apartments[^1]) and farmland into rental properties.

[^1] in 'Murican, the word "apartment" has rental connotations. I'm using it here in the "a unit in a larger building of units, either owned or rented out."

[-] ruse8145@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 months ago

3% is about average inflation, why is "making constant money including adjusting for inflation" low?

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Well if you recall, there was a year where general inflation was far above 3%. Inflation is also not uniform and can be higher in some cities than others. And this is not inflation + 3%, it is 3%. Many people also have to borrow to build which means they are not simply paying the rate of inflation but what the banks are charging to borrow. Currently that is around 7%. So anyone looking to build units is looking at a negative return if they borrow to do it which means they simply will not.

Make no mistake, I do agree with caps but something that is not static makes more sense. Having it a static rate will lead to large unintended consequences.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

Do you mean the year 2008 when there was too much investment in real estate? Or the year 2020 when there was a moratorium on evictions and lumber prices soared?

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