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Rogan promoted the conspiracy theory that Epps was an “agent provocateur” for the feds, a baseless claim that has led to a defamation suit against Fox News.

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[-] Captain_Patchy@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What a fucking idiot. What is it about being a reality tv star that gives these medical grade morons the idea that they are smarter than everyone else? I mean the public getting fooled sure, that's in the editing and show runners keeping the idiots on the rails. But the idiots themselves thinking they are the smart ones? it boggles the mind.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 1 year ago

Look up the Dunning Kruger Effect.

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias[2] whereby people with low ability, expertise, or experience regarding a type of task or area of knowledge tend to overestimate their ability or knowledge.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I think it's less that and more he found out a profitable base and pandered to it. He's not an idiot he has a great PR team it's how a b list star from news radio and bad comedian managed to get and keep attention and make iirc hundreds of millions at this point.

[-] mindbleach@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Reality is a team sport, to some people.

What's true today is handed down by people above you, and if they belong above you, they must be better than you. In every way. There's only the one metric. People in this mindset don't understand expertise as anything more than sounding real smart.

Someone clever can't just be wrong, since that would require an objective means to evaluate claims. That is not what claims are for, in this tribal worldview. They can only be accepted or rejected based on interpersonal trust.

And they think that's all you're doing, because they think that's all there is.

This is why every argument you have with these people is frustrating nonsense. They don't have a stable set of beliefs you can interact with. They have slogans. They will freely shuffle through them to win the conversation by finding plausible excuses. Consistency means less than nothing. It's an obstacle to making good moves in this stupid word game.

This is what defines conservatism. This is all there is to conservatism. It's the Oops All Hierarchy worldview. There is no other force in that moral universe. They can claim high-minded ideals, but they'll flit between contradictory bullshit with zero self-recognition. So either they're somehow champions of individual rights while viciously enforcing tradition and also the Confederate-loving party of Lincoln and also free-speech-loving censorship nannies and also stalwart capitalist bailout-sucking union-busters or else they're just fucking lying. They're just... shuffling cards.

The only reliable predictor of what they'll say is whether they're talking about the ingroup or the outgroup. They will make whatever mouth noises protect and elevate the ingroup. They will make whatever mouth noises attack and denigrate the outgroup.

I understand why they don't see this division. What the hell is our excuse?

[-] Odd_so_Star_so_Odd@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Success and fame to go with it will often have that effect when the fool don't think they deserve it themselves. They feel special as a result and get completely blinded and selfabsorbed by their own greed and ego, especially once the money rolls in.

[-] A2PKXG@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

I feel that Joe Rogan is quite open about not really knowing much about anything. It's a real shame. I'd be interested in some of his podcasts, if only the host knew what they were talking about

[-] yata@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Nah, he is being deliberately disingenous. He knows when he spews right wing disinformation because he knows who his core audience are.

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