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[-] RatzChatsubo@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago

But what if I don't want a typical Democrat in office either?

[-] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 28 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

What if you really want a warm hug but you only have the choice between a poke in the eye with a sharp stick and not a poke in the eye?

You still choose "not a poke in the eye", dumbo.

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[-] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago

Then go run for office and be better. Until then, unfortunately, pick the FAR lesser evil

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Millions are unsatisfied. Should everyone run for office?

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
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[-] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago
[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago

A ballot sheet with thousands of names is not the answer

[-] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

Nothing is ever "the answer"

All yall want to do is complain

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Get more involved in local politics is a sensible answer.

Telling everyone to run for office is idiotic.

[-] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

I'm telling everyone to run cause I know we're all some lazy fucks and no one is going to

Yall just won't stop complaining about everything

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Supporting someone who is running is 10x more useful than running against them.

[-] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

So we agree to vote for Biden?

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

If you are in a swing state, yes.

Solid blue state voters have more flexibility.

[-] RatzChatsubo@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I did. Marianne Williamson was shut out of the conversation and smeared by the media. Not my fault the left cannibalizes itself every election cycle. Biden might as well be a Republican

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[-] spoopy@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Voting for someone in an election in the US is not an endorsement of that person. You have effectively two choices in many of the elections due to how the system is designed. You vote for the best choice of those two.

Not voting, or voting for a non viable candidate, is a signal that you Do Not Care who is in power.

Voting is a tool, and a civic duty. It's one of the few ways US society allows direct input from citizens.

If you actually are against facism, don't use misguided idealism to encourage people to throw away the little political power they have.

[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

It’s one of the few ways US society allows direct input from citizens.

Okay here's my input: I don't vote for people who support genocides or block strikes.

If you want my vote work for it.

[-] spoopy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

That's your prerogative, just recognize that if both options support genocide and block strikes, so you chose to vote for a non viable candidate, or to not vote, you're effectively disenfranchising yourself.

Your last point is very valid though. The DNC is very good at shooting themselves in the foot because they should know very well that people do get demotivated and just stop voting, yet continue to distance themselves from their voter base, resting on their laurels as "the only sane choice out of the two".

Supporting local candidates, where your vote also is more heavily weighted, is one of the ways to shift policy - the US govt isnt just the president, it's representatives and senators and state governments.

[-] RatzChatsubo@lemm.ee -2 points 5 months ago

Boycotting is also very patriotic

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

Right now the Democratic Party's convention and local election Primaries haven't happened. Best that can be done is to influence the party platform through this primary season to influence or change what a 'typical' Democrat may be.

There's a massive influx of money right now going towards keeping typical Democrats in line with Israel. So it appears that will predictably be a prevailing issue one way or another.

So like: most of my local elections usually feature Democrats v Democrats so I'll likely opt for the non-Zionist or at least the less Zionist of the two. That may send a message for the winner of the Presidential ticket, if anything.

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