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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 55 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You know, at a certain point, if he doesn’t shut up, it crossed the line into justification for his assassination.

I don’t know where that line is, and quite honestly, I hope we don’t have to find out because the last thing we need is that guy as a martyr.

But I really hope he shuts the fuck up.

[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 82 points 5 months ago

Trump committed treason on national TV when he asked Russia to help him get elected in 2016...and they did the next day.

We're way past that point.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

and they did the next day.

James Comey, Russian special agent

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 17 points 5 months ago

The last few elections and the clusterfuck of a primary show that nobody can run on trump but trump.

So... No worries about him being a martyr.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 3 points 5 months ago

I'm an eloquent motherfucker, but I don't have sufficient words to express my contempt for Trump. I still don't think I could ever consider assassinating him to be justified.

My question is, isn't this conspiracy to commit murder?

[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 12 points 5 months ago

You have to take some action towards it for it to be conspiracy. Just talking isn't enough.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

I’m an eloquent motherfucker, but I don’t have sufficient words to express my contempt for Trump.

words aren't the only form of communication. Punching him in the face would certainly be adequate... and therefore must certainly be protected speech.

My question is, isn’t this conspiracy to commit murder?

No? at best it's raising a legal question. In very extreme cases, self defense can be premeditated. abused women who can't reasonably escape the abusers, for example. The question is, at what point does a political candidate making threats to execute and murder his political opponents cross the line into that extreme scenario?

It's not like I'm actively plotting his assassination, and neither are you. Conspiracy is far more deliberate, it involves specific actions. It's an uncomfortable conversation to have, sure, but it's probably one somebody who can muzzle Trump should be having with him.

Like, the plot to kidnap Whitmer, that was a conspiracy. This? nope.

Also, just for the record, that line is probably somewhere around the same time civil war becomes imminent.

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