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Have you tried apatch as an alternative to magisk?
It ~combines rhe advantages of magisk and kernelsu
KernelSU is unsafe. Is apatch the same?
I think it may be based on ksu, but also uses superkeys with passwords or something. I don't know much about its security, you may want to check the issues tab on github or generally the project itself.
From the security standpoint, I think rooting is always against the security. That's why DivestOS and GrapheneOS are against it, and it shouldn't be tried. However, I was interested in Shizuku that also is some another hole to patch up when exploited.
Is any root safe though?
Not really but KSU is less safe than Magisk
In what way?
Read their own official documentation. They officially said they didn't have anyone responsible for security and it's not what they cared about. This combined with basically giving the whole system root permission is very bad for security
No, I have never heard of it. Thanks!
I don't even know what Kernelsu is. Magisk is already applied to the phone, never thought there are alternatives.
Oh oke oke. I had issues with magisk a few months before I switch. I think there were incompatibility issues between magisk and lsposed manager, so I did a full reset, I upgraded the rom (from a beta version from November 2021 of the rom xiaomi.eu miui 12.6/android 11, I went to xiaomi.eu hyperOS/android13) and installed apatch so that I dont have incompatibikity issues (plus, it hides root much better).
I don't know what that is.
To me, that's the funniest thing. I come from Linux and I want to have - let's say administrator (root) of my Android, which is also Linux as far I know. I know the Android is praised for its security, but come on, I wish to have control over my system as a working System Admin. That's the main purpose of my set-up. How come, any app can just check whether I have root or not? That's some bullshit.
Those "root checks" are a joke. ~Nobody raises a brow if you are an admin user with root privilages on windows, (desktop) linux or macos. But it's such a huuuge deal when you manage to actually own and use your own mobile device the way you want by breaking free from what they impose on you, ugh...
Any app that doesnt work when you have root access ~shouldn't be used at first place..
Lsposed is a magisk/ksu module that has its own modules too. Like a manager insude a manager giving you even more options.
I would like to help you with various stuff and customizations but I just don't have enough time to explain them all.๐
I'm just gonna list stuff you may find useful:
Apatch (root and magisk/kernel modules manager)
Mrepo (magisk modules manager)
Shizuku
Color blender (to tweak metarial you colors)
Droidify (fdroid alternative)
Aurora store (play store alterantive)
Total commander (closed source root file manager)
Canta (used to uninstall system apps, I just use it to see the descriptions of various apps and disable them)
Florisboard beta (I have made a very good copy of gboard with that, I can send you the files if you want)
Smartpack manager (info about the phone and more)
Appmanager (various detailed info about apps)
Hidden settings (settings your rom may not show, closed source)
Island (for dual apps)
Neobackup (root backups, has issues with work profile)
Databackup (root backups, I use it to backup work profile apps)
Sai (installer)
Roundsync (uses rsync or rclone I think)
PrimitiveFTP (to send/recieve files with ftp connections)
DroidFS (to encrypt files)
DiskUsage (to visalise storage usage)
Db viewer (to view databases of apps, closed source)
Termux (temrinal for android, too advanced for me)
UsageDirect (logs app usage)
Motionamate (logs steps)
Neutrinote ce (notes)
Fossify apps (gallery, sms, calendar etc.)
Librera (pdf, epub etc viewer)
Moneywallet (expense/income tracker)
Magisk modules:
Adb and fastboot for android ndk
Advanced charging controller
Busybox for android ndk
Lsposed-mod (maintained version of lsposed manager, after the original went archived)
Zygisk mod
Lsposed modules/apps:
Lucky patcher (hacking apps if you want to)
Free notificiations to manage notifications
Matrix rain (fancy effect with matrix background in notification shade)
messengerEX (to disable adds in messenger app, in case you use it)
And many many more stuff
I was setting up my phone for about two weeks some months ago (the was a bug with xiaomi and work profile)๐
I'm pretty sure Shelter is better than Island, but I forgot the reason xD
Obtainium to grab apps and updates straight from the repositories.
GPS Logger is neat if you want to keep track of your movements now that Google won't track you anymore.
Insular (the degoogled open source version of Island) has a page comparing Island, Shelter and Insular
https://secure-system.gitlab.io/Insular/faq.html
I don't know if its updated, but you can pick the ones that fits your needs.
I picked Island because I thought I may have issues with my notifications if I had chosen Insular. (Plus, there was this bug I was talking about and thought that it would fix it. Installing Island wasnt the solution, but I had already spent a lot of time/days setting up my phone multiple times and didnt want to try it again, with the possibility of problematic notifications.)