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[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

Went from "yeah let's invade Iraq and stop Saddam!" to "oh man we made a mistake"

Oof.

The change in Israeli policy, accepting gay marriage, rejecting iraq invasion, and support for labor rights... Where and how did the Democratic Party arrive at these positions?

There was a short period of time when the Democratic Party pursued a strategy that involved more than those specific named categories. Howard Dean, another Vermont progressive, ran the DNC from 2005-2009 and helped facilitate Obama's victory in deep red stated and even a dominating congressional position.

He was removed in 2009. The Democrats have been stringing along some hefty Ls since, even though a progressive, leftist strategy was proven to work.

The faction that beat away Dean is the same that undermined Sanders twice.

https://www.politico.com/story/2009/12/what-if-obama-hadnt-ostracized-dean-030752

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Where and how did the Democratic Party arrive at these positions?

That's an extremely complicated question to answer, but I'm sure you have some simple-sounding conspiracy theory that ties everything together neatly if you don't look too deeply into it. Let's hear it.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

Finish reading the post you're quoting...?

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

I guess I haven't drank enough kool-aid to tie together Howard Dean, Bernie Sanders, and the several examples of Democrats changing positions that I mentioned.

But I'll guess it somehow involves the big bad ~~Deep State~~ DNC intentionally sabotaging the glorious majority of Leftist voters who would otherwise dominate political discourse, because they're just that fucking evil or something.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

Well there is this whole extremely dismissive arrogance kind of thing, but I'm not sure I would call it evil?

See I was only going for the corporate donor backlash over and during the ACA legislation and the effects of the Citizens United/SpeechNow decisions that came thereafter.

It's clear that's all too much to get into, unfortunately, what with all the contempt.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

So super pacs? Influencing the DNC to ignore progressives?

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