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[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago

Show me a mobile phone running Linux with that config working. It doesn't exist.

[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago

i wasn't talking about phones, but the pinephone, and the pinephone64, and a handful of other phones that are supposedly running linux, that are either not out yet, or really expensive.

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 months ago
[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago

nope, unfortunately this is my main, and by main i mean the one sole singular lemmy account that i have.

[-] uis@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago
[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago

That is just a Phone model, you have yet to show me that phone being configured as you specified

[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago

go show me that it's impossible then, once you show me that it's impossible i will go and do it myself just to spite you.

[-] uis@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

It's literally linux phone. It runs regular linux. Regular linux uses PAM modules. There is no difference between configuring it on desktop and on phone. If comprehending ability to use same OS on desktop and phone is beyond your intellectual ability, I will guide you with this logical chain: linux on desktop -> linux on ARM computer like raspberry pi -> linux on ARM computer based on Allwinner A64 -> PinePhone is based on Allwinner A64.

If you still don't grasp it, I'll try once more. This can be installed on regular linux. Single Board Computers can run regular linux. This includes Pine64, which uses A64 chip. A64 devices can run it from sd card. And if you can't imagine how Pine64 that works on A64 and PinePhone that works on A64 are connected, here's neat trick: insert bootable sd card into Pine64, load linux, configure math captcha module, shut it down, insert same sd card into powered off PinePhone, power it on, it will load exact same OS your Pine64 have been using and where math captcha is configured.

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago

You still have not shown me a Phone configured as you bragged it could.

You don't grasp that I am not interested in theory, I am interested in practical demonstrations.

My point is that it doesn't matter if Linux xan do this, the discussion was about a mobile phone that could do both biometrics and pin at the same time.

[-] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

My point is that it doesn't matter if Linux xan do this,

So linuxphones you don't consider as phones? Fine.

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 months ago

Wow, you still don't get it.

Show me a Linux phone that is actually configured to unlock with both biometrics and pin, then you have proven that Linux is relevant.

I don't care about what is technically possible, I care about it actually being done.

I am not even asking if it is easy to setup or simple to use, I am just asking you to prove that it can be done on a Linux phone.

I am just asking for a proof of concept running on a Linux phone.

I am giving Linux the best possible chance here, the bare minimum.

The tasks I want to see done on a Linux phone is the following:

  1. Prompt for a fingerprint, face scan, or any quick biometric.
  2. Once passed the biometric prompt successfully, the phone should prompt for a pin.
  3. once passed both prompts the phone should unlock.

I love Linux, I have been a Linux sysadmin for almost a decade and used Linux on and off for almost twenty years. I daily drive Windows due to work and gaming, but am considering switching to Linux at home when Win10 goes EOL.

But unless you can show me a Linux phone configured as described above then Linux is not the answer.

For the time being I wish you a happy midsummer.

[-] dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

Linux is fucking dying on phones. UBport, etc all they can do is a cat and mouse game. Voip? Catch the mouse. And all the while it's running om proprietary cellular modem chips, something that will never change

[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

My point is that it doesn’t matter if Linux xan do this, the discussion was about a mobile phone that could do both biometrics and pin at the same time.

if you lack basic cognitive reasoning to the point that someone can configure PAM in a specific way on desktop linux, and that presumably, a phone running the exact same software suite, with no differences aside from graphical environment, somehow couldn't do this is actually just kind of sad.

Wait until you find out how monitors display color. They have three different colors, red green and blue, and somehow, that manages to make all the funny colors on your screen. But since you can't see the individual pixels with your naked eye, i guess that must be untrue now huh?

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 months ago
[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago

idk you tell me, i'm still trying to figure out what you were waffling on about.

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