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[-] retrospectology@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I'd say Biden is in an even worse position, his push to the far right on immigration, economics, genocide etc. because he thinks he has voters over a barrel has alienated and demoralized a lot of voters. He's quite literally to the right of Ronald Reagan at this point on so many issues, it's a tall order to ask non-conservatives to vote for him when he's literally just a Republican.

His inability to change course very well might cost him the election, and even if he does squeak out a win it guaruntees that the Democratic party will continue to see moving right and supporting genocide as the way to win elections.

US democracy is kind of a walking corpse at this point I think. People just don't want to acknowledge what the problems are and think kicking the can down the road some more will help.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

This is why things are shit and nothing changes. You can't just show up to vote for the president and then fuck off for four years. You have to vote in every local election too. Its not a walking corpse, the flies just know when nothing is around the shit.

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

You’re right that we need to vote in all elections to enable more progressive politics. The problem is even when we try to do that, establishment democrats come in with millions of dollars in PAC money to back the establishment candidate instead and keep the political outsiders out. Jessica Cisneros would have been amazing, but Pelosi did everything she could to keep the corrupt goon Cuellar in place, who is now indicted on 14 federal corruption charges. Of course Pelosi still backs him, full-throatedly.

It’s not going to get better until we stop the corruption and end the legalized bribes by getting money out of politics. Until then it’s just a dog and pony show to keep us distracted enough to not be in open rebellion in the streets over how badly the working class is getting robbed. And the elites are in a panic because they are losing that grip…it’s going to be a wild election season in America to say the least.

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

Dems do have an amazing ability to learn the exact wrong lessons from situations such as this. It’s also mildly infuriating that most attempts to point out these shortcomings are met with shaming or outrageous claims of nefarious intent instead of a modicum of introspection. Those are the interactions that make it hard to hold on to hope for me.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

outrageous claims of nefarious intent

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