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Intense phase of Israel's war with Hamas about to end, Netanyahu says
(www.nbcnews.com)
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I’m vehemently anti-Hamas. Very pro-Palestine. Hamas is a cancer to Palestine.
Israel is America’s closest ally in the region, and an important factor in maintaining our global influence. I don’t agree with their tactics, but I understand why our leadership will never turn their backs on them
There’s this thing called nuance, and you need to understand that the world is far more complicated than just “stop fighting”
lol All you've done is defend Israel here
"it's simple, Hamas just has to surrender" is not a peace plan
That's the only way this war ends. I'm just being realistic, not emotional
What about national and international pressure on the Netanyahu government?
Has that had any effect? Has international pressure ever had any effect on Israel?
Again, you might HOPE and WISH that the US will put immense pressure on Israel, but like I stated before, we won't. There are reasons why our leadership will continue to back them.
So while maybe we can all agree that it would be the best possible scenario, hoping and wishing is far from reality in this situation. Given the facts of reality, the only way this war ends is by Hamas surrendering and returning the hostages
And then the occupation continues. How does that solve anything? There will be another resistance group, of course. Israel already was a pain in the ass for Palestinians before October 7th. They don't see going back to that situation as meaningful progress.
Nothing about your stance is pragmatic. It doesn't even make logical sense. It's cowardice to give in and the rest of the world can go back to ignoring suffering of the Palestinians. Israel is genociding Palestinians and you're here blaming Hamas??
I'm not ignoring the suffering of Palestinians - the only way anything can progress however is the complete surrender of Hamas. Israel will just continue the killing until then. Why do you think they'll suddenly stop without a complete surrender?
How many Palestinians live in Israel?
"Approximately 1.8 million Palestinians form around 20.8 per cent of Israel’s population." Source: https://minorityrights.org/communities/palestinians/
Is that what Genocide looks like? I think it's fair to say that their military tactics in Gaza are extreme, we can agree there. But I would also say that dropping bombs on Gaza is a direct result of Hamas' actions and existence. Hamas cares as little about Palestinians as Israel (actually less I would argue). They have no interest in diplomacy or a two state solution, they're only interested in the complete destruction of Israel
Now you're at genocide denial. I'm done. Fuck that
Why would they allow almost 2 million Palestinians to live in their country if they wanted them all dead? You’re in denial that civilians are killed during wars
"their country"
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Yes, if Israel wanted to kill all Palestinians, why would there be nearly 2m in Israel?
All of Israel is stolen land. They're stealing even more as we speak.
To answer your question: They will and they have outright killed thousands, tens of thousands of Palestinians. They destroyed schools, hospital, cemeteries, media offices, homes. They are not letting in food in the country, causing a goddamn famine. Everybody has seen it. Everybody knows it's happening.
You can sod right off if you want a specific number of summary executions before it 'counts' as a genocide. Absolutely abhorrent behavior. I'm blocking your ass right now. Bye.
Here, you probably haven't gotten to the class in college yet where you learn what words mean, but this is the definition of "genocide":
the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
Now please answer my question, if it was a genocide, and they were trying to destroy all Palestinians, why would there be 2m Palestinians living in Israel? Wouldn't they have killed them first? Or expelled them? Could it be that the Palestinians being killed now are collateral damage in a war?
Who was there before the Palestinians? Jews right?