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Hey yall, just wanted to chime in with a quick update on why we were down and have gone down a few times these past few days.

So... for those who don't know a bit on the backend way of how lemmy works right now, it's a lil more than a mess. Lemmy itself uses very little computing resources, you could probably run a decent instance on a toaster (I wouldn't suggest it though) but the problem that arises rapidly is the way photos are managed. The photo database downloads images both that are uploaded and federated. There is an option to disable caching for federated NSFW posts by unchecking enable NSFW within the instance admin panel. That's the only option related disabling federated images as of right now.

You see where I'm going with this, with this instance being as large as it is? Our photo database has been filling up pretty rapidly. We are attempting to troubleshoot solutions to prevent caching all federated content. Unfortunately as our backend team is attempting to figure that out, our pictures database just keeps ballooning more and more.

We have deleted some stuff in hopes to give more time, but we unfortunately have no choice but to migrate to object storage ASAP. Tomorrow there will likely be downtime as we migrate things over, and unfortunately there is no telling how long that will take.

Thank you for being patient and understanding while we navigate this. If you want to see updates to our status when we go down, check out our mastodon page here or come to our matrix public operations channel for updates (link in the sidebar.)

Things should work today though. Emphasis on should.

We are working on open collective still, but hosting this instance does cost money. If you are able to, donations are greatly appreciated. Especially as we will have to factor in object storage into our costs now.

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[-] zabadoh@lemmynsfw.com 36 points 1 year ago

The problem with a 3rd party hosting site is that there's no guarantee they suddenly won't go out of business, or hide or delete all their nsfw content like imgur and Tumblr and many others in the past.

Just hosting images for another site like this one isn't profitable because they can't sell ads for the hotlinked images served to users of that other site.

It is a conundrum to find a working long term solution.

[-] rustling_leaves@lemmynsfw.com 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One of the worst things when it comes to porn is videos or pictures being deleted. Especially frustrating to browse old forums and none of the download links work or none of the images show. Or when pornhub deleted nearly 80% of their videos. There are videos out there which I am still looking for. Probably will never find again. Partly the reason I am a hoarder.

[-] zabadoh@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 1 year ago

I completely agree.

The models retire, the photographer or rigger retire, or shut down because of piracy.

Torrents and download links disappearing.

Fuck pornhub for multiple reasons.

It's such a shame.

Support the artists while you can, because that's what they are, and preserve their works for posterity.

[-] LexiconBexicon@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah that was such a heartbreak, like over half the website just disappeared over false allegations and so much really popular amateur content gone forever was deleted for no reason in the purge.

[-] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

It really isn't a problem when we're talking about these kinds of images. This isn't a type of content that if it disappears in 12 months anybody is going to feel great loss for. It's not instructions on how to maintain some esoteric computer system, or some sort of critical cultural records. It's a transient commodity, with a steady stream being generated all the time. Nobody is going back and browsing the stuff that was posted 5 years ago.

Anyone who wants to keep such images for extended periods is able to save them locally to their computer as they get posted.

[-] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

You underestimate the average porn addict. People were downloading years of porn they’d ‘saved’ on Reddit while making their escape.

[-] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

The save option is still there.

Also, This lemmy instance is actually more likely to fail right now than most of these established image sharing sites.

[-] Blamemeta@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I did that. I have like 5 comics from when imgur started deleting porn.

[-] AnAccount@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 year ago

The only real solution is to pay to host images. Nobody will accept though so we end up with the issues you describe.

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