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What’s really inside vapes? We pulled them apart to find out
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heating coil, chemical reservoir, battery? It's not like it's rocket science.
The biggest problem with these things is they use lithium batteries. That is not a single use item.
So, unfortunately, both of my kids who are in their early 20s are heavily into vaping and they claim that they are buying these gray market nicotine vapes.
I know what nicotine is and whatever is in these things is not nicotine.
This is completely unregulated and there's a chemical in there that they are claiming is nicotine that is not, and it spins your head so hard it nearly puts you on your arse.
This is the real problem. What is inside these things, from a chemical perspective, and what are the kids breathing into their lungs?
In most cases insanely high concentration nicotine salts. Back before corpos got a hold of them, most everyone vaping used nicotine freebase in concentrations <20mg/ml. Freebase absorbs slowly, you had to work hard with 20mg/ml to get a headspin, like hyperventilating for a minute. Also less addictive. Salts absorb much faster, and the disposables (disgusting waste, but that's the profit model) are at 50+mg/ml, so the dopamine hit is a lot more instant. Of course, cigarette manufacturers have been finding additives to make their products more addictive since at least the 1950s, so whether or not and how long before those things make their way in is anyone's guess.
You can still get reusable vapes and freebase nicotine, and it's still the most effective way known for smoking cessation, but the enshittification has basically happened.
I purchased this with vapes back in the day. Kept the nicotine jars in the freezer, had my injection syringes to dose the vape accurately, etc. I know it well. This stuff is not that stuff.
Did you buy freebase or salts? And what mg/mL did you dose at? I still use my reusable vape and dose my own and have dosed both freebase and salts - what MalReynolds says is the truth. The salt has a much lower throat-hit, which has allowed the disposable vape companies to jack up the mg/mL to 50+ which is just fucking insane territory. A friend of mine dosed his own with nicotine salts at 50mg/mL to compare and it gave that exact head spin you’re talking about. It’s a combination of the dosage and use of nicotine salt that does it.