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Who in their right mind isn’t? The only people that aren’t, aren’t eh brainless minions that worship the ground that coward walks on.
Vile people want a vile leader that they believe will help them remain vile without consequence. Especially vile people see the power in that, and run for government office. Or just decree they've got the job in this case.
I'm not scared of him being in office because I have confidence that he won't be elected. I know the whole mindset on Reddit and Lemmy is fear of him being back in office but with more young voters who are overwhelmingly left leaning being able to vote, the Republicans shooting themselves in the foot overturning Roe V Wade, and all of the ass backwards policies they're putting in place, more people aren't gonna let this happen in 2024. But I understand the fear completely and it is justified
"I have confidence that he won’t be elected" I had that confidence the first go around... and that didn't work out so well. The last election gave me a little bit of hope back, but that we're even having this discussion in the first place, that Trump is even in the running, isn't a good sign.
Well experts say that Biden has a good chance of winning if he runs against Trump. In fact, Allen Lichtman has predicted every election correct since 84 except Bush vs Gore. But that was due to Florida fucking with the votes. He himself says Biden has a strong chance of winning if Trump is picked as the Republican forerunner. Which they obviously will pick him.
The problem with 2016 was that Republicans clearly couldn't take having a black president for 8 years to then go and have a woman be the next president right after that. Then Trump who just said any and everything to appease to then crazies of this country and they came out in droves. As well, Hillary just wasn't that charismatic in her debates
Hillary had a whole lot of baggage going into that election, then the Dem primaries didn’t really do anything to strengthen her, if anything it fractured the party even more. She was an establishment candidate in a ‘change’ election, just the wrong fit for the mood.
Another big thing is that a lot of people didn't like how the DNC snubbed Bernie. He was clearly in the lead until I think it was South Carolina? And then Hillary all of a sudden was the pick. Most people I know (and it could be cause I'm Gen Z and what I see due to my community), wanted Bernie and Bernie alone and we're very pissed
Yea, that was a big slap in the face and I think made a lot of people realize that the fix was in, Hillary was "the anointed one" that election and wasn't going to let another Obama come along and take the nomination away from her. I was still even holding out hope that Sanders would at least get the VP slot, just some sort of seat at the table.
Still though, anyone who just skipped voting out of spite helped hand the election over to Trump, gave Republicans all those Supreme Court Justices, which got Roe v Wade truck down, probably contributed to Russia invading Ukraine, and a host of other problems that came down from the 2016 election. I thought Bernie was the best choice by far (though maybe he still would've lost to Trump, who knows), but held my nose and voted for Hillary regardless because the election was more important than just getting my preferred candidate.
The issue is that the overwhelming majority of voters, including the youth vote, only pay attention to federal elections and ignore state and local elections. In the present day and age, States' Supreme Courts are even more important for individual rights than the SCOTUS. If you've got a red state high court and legislature and progressive federal senators/representatives/POTUS, life will still suck bigtime in your state. And more than ever, SCOTUS is reverting to "STATES RIGHTS" like we're back in the Jim Crow era.
It could just be me, but from what I've seen of those around me as I'm Gen Z myself, a lot of us ARE aware of local elections and how important they are. We actively do vote in them. It may have a much bigger impact the next go around but we'll all have to just wait and see
Fingers crossed. I'm a x-enial and I continue to be disappointed. :)