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I think that's a bad example. Not Just Bikes even sees it as a lost cause, key point at the bottom:
https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/08843796-69a9-4286-9e88-3f4d1bc30758.png
If several of the biggest cities got infrastructure/mixed-use-development good enough to restrict car use in the next 5 years I would be very impressed. Passenger trains and some bike infrastructure would be nice too.
You add in issues like rural areas, housing prices/availability, and cost-of-living (plus stagnant wages) and even the disruptive approach will not be here in 5-10 years even if it did somehow have full support. USA is completely entrenched in rivers and lakes of asphalt. If cars are a disease, we are in at-least stage 3. That is a different fight.
So I can see why you would say that, but cynicism/realism are quite different than denialism.
EDIT: A different analogy would be if you were choking, being attacked by a wild animal, overdosing, and on fire all at the same time. Even if you had a pit crew, that's gonna be difficult to tackle all of those simultaneously in the same time-frame as any individually. Also more complicated/more risk of complication.
Pareto principle; rural areas are causing less harm and cities right now. Ban cars in cities, figure out rural areas next.
Rural person needs to go to the city? They park their car at the outskirts.
I'm sick and tired of hearing 20% excuses on why we can't fix 80% of traffic.
Rural areas can be addressed too by subsidizing electric vehicles and infrastructure. Every manufacturer would drop all but a few of their gas-powered models overnight if they could sell electrics at the same price.
Note that the person I was responding to is saying "we can ban cars and gas stations in 5 years" full stop. And then the NJB quote of
So no, I am not saying we can't make it better (or that cities can't do it). Just that it's a complete mess nationwide.
That's why the rest of the world should go to war with the USA and take away their cars. We can end genocide of trans people while we're there, like we did in Germany.
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