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[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

It's a real wonder why people with less possibilities can become influenced by crime, regardless of birthplace, and still countries push new residents into those situations

[-] Wanderer@lemm.ee -2 points 4 months ago

You mean bringing in people like that.

A country could you know. Not bring them in. Issue is solved then.

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Not bring who in? What's the deciding factor, precogs evaluating if someone does crime in the future? Not bring people who are born there and already stuck in lower classes. The problems don't care about immigration, it's the bourgeoisie waging class warfare.

[-] Wanderer@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

Well lots of countries have immigration requirements or points based systems. So it is obvious that countries already use means to choose which immigrants it wants.

This just needs expansion. You look at immigrants or children of immigrants that commit more crime than locals or contribute less than locals and you don't bring them in. Because bringing them in makes the country worse.

It's obviously an average but that is all immigration requirements are.

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

That doesn't make sense, a new immigrant is in no way responsible for someone else's crime

[-] Wanderer@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

Why don't they just let anyone in they? Why have rules on which people are allowed to immigrate and which aren't?

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago
[-] Kaboom@reddthat.com 0 points 4 months ago

Just let less immigrants in. No need for a pre-cog.

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

It's not their fault, why punish so

[-] Kaboom@reddthat.com -1 points 4 months ago
[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

So you are moving to a new street, but suddenly it's not allowed because someone else maybe did something. You don't know why, what, who, but your rights have been lessened. That's how

[-] Kaboom@reddthat.com -1 points 4 months ago

Its not a right. Its not "a new street", its a country.

And to continue your metaphor, theres literally not enough houses on the street.

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

There's plenty of houses. Street or city or country, it doesn't matter. There's no valid reason to prevent innocent individuals from choosing any of them. Sounds like a right, why wouldn't it be

[-] Kaboom@reddthat.com -1 points 4 months ago

Canadians cant even find a house anymore, much less buy one. The UK is paving the country side. House supply is down, they literally cant build quick enough to handle the influx.

I think you and I have fundementally different ideas about immigration and what a country is.

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Yes. I don't see it as the root cause for issues which exist regardless of it

[-] Kaboom@reddthat.com -1 points 4 months ago

The matve population of canada is shrinking. The only reason its growing is immigration, and they literally cant build enough houses to keep up. Theres not enough construction workers and not enough hours in a day.

Its 100% the fault of immigration.

[-] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Yeah it's pretty sad what is happening to the population of Inuit and First Nation Indians in Canada.

Forced assimilation and discrimination have really shrunk Canada's truly native population.

[-] Kaboom@reddthat.com 0 points 4 months ago

I know you were being snarky, but theyre a great example of why immigration is bad. They will never recover.

[-] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

All those African colonies that France ruled for centuries; immigrants from those countries should be denied, just because they are ~~Black~~ immigrants?

[-] Kaboom@reddthat.com 0 points 4 months ago

Not becayse theyre black, but because theres simply too many immigrants. A country can only handle so much.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 4 months ago

You mean bringing in people like that.

There is so much in this sentence to unpack im not sure where to begin.

[-] Wanderer@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

Are you saying they magically become different people once they are in the country?

A country can choose to let that person in or not.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Are you saying they magically become different people once they are in the country?

Do you honestly believe people think that?

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Lock your door and never go out.

What a solution!

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