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[-] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 4 months ago

saying 'no code' from rivals seems highly misleading, and I can't seem to see a hard citation for this, in fact, it very directly contradicts this same sentence from the article

He also said that unlike SerenityOS, Ladybird will “leverage the greater OSS ecosystem,” meaning that it will use other open source libraries for some features.

it would be better to say they aren't relying on libraries and features from rivals. not that they will use "no code" from them, good code is good code afterall

[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 27 points 4 months ago

What I got was that there would be no Google or Mozilla specific code/libraries, but FOSS libraries for common media formats would be included so that the project can reach a wider audience.

[-] Lionir@beehaw.org 9 points 4 months ago

What I got was that there would be no Google or Mozilla specific code/libraries, but FOSS libraries for common media formats would be included so that the project can reach a wider audience.

AFAIK They use Skia, the rendering library made by Google so this does not appear true either.

[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Well that sucks. There are so many alternatives with just as much support

[-] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago

skia doesn't actually have that many alternatives, and skia is well maintained used by a large amount of projects. and none I am aware of are nearly as mature as skia is.

[-] Lionir@beehaw.org 2 points 4 months ago

I mean, to be fair, Skia appears to be good - Firefox and LibreOffice also use it for example. I believe GNOME Web will also use Skia in GNOME 47. It certainly seems that people are moving away from Cairo and into Skia. For what reason? I don't know.

[-] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago

Honestly, I'm not sure that's quite a good takeaway. The article itself was pretty much a bland nothing burger and the articles that were cited were, again, pretty bland. The biggest thing I can find is that they won't be facing off another browser and then it's like, well duh.

It's just one of those things. It just feels like the original dude said one thing and the author interpreted it a completely different way.

[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

No, that's a takeaway from the post by the dev about Ladybird. It's what he said, more or less.

[-] monobot@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

They are not PR people, don't expected that of just normal people having fun. No one is promising "chrome killer coming in six months".

Thig is that for SerenityOS they want to make everything from scratch, ssh, ssl, libraries, utils, text editor... even the browser. They could have just porr Firefox, but that was not the point. To use it you had to complile whole OS.

But since browser got some attention and sone complex sites (like guthub and twitter) started working in it, to make project more viable they are dropping this constraint for browser. I guess they migt use some gui library, ssl lib, codecs... stuff like that. But, I expect, they will not use others code for rendering engine and js, but continue with implementation from documentation.

While some in this thread say they are racist, homophobic and stuff. Maybe some are maybe just not polished for public speak, do we really think everyone in google is totally clean?

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