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'There Are No Kings in America': Biden Blasts Supreme Court, Issues Dire Warning After Immunity Ruling (dailyboulder.com)

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“(With) today’s Supreme Court decision on presidential immunity, that fundamentally changed. For all practical purposes, there are virtually no limits on what the president can do. It’s a fundamentally new principle and it’s a dangerous precedent because the power of the office will no longer be constrained by the law even including the supreme court of the United States.”

Throughout his address, Biden underscored the gravity of the moment, emphasizing that the only barrier to the president’s authority now lies in the personal restraint of the officeholder. He warned vehemently against the prospect of Trump returning to power, painting a stark picture of the dangers such an outcome could pose.

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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 116 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Dumbass and spineless Biden and Democrats. The supreme court literally just started that America had a king but this dumbass party would rather take some stupid fucking high road bullshit instead of playing the game to ensure the fascist fuck around and find out.

They don't even have to resort to assassinations, they could really tell the IRS to audit 501(c) and remove their status from the churches and bullshit Republican charities, or tell the justice department to focus on domestic terrorism and corruption to fuck over Republican groups and representatives, or tell the FDA to allow the sale of raw milk.

Play the god damn game and be the fucking king if these corrupt justice says there's a king.

[-] Daxter101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That is a guaranteed path to fascism.

I'm not gonna say that the chances are good, but if they refuse, and win, and then walk back the changes, maybe fascism can be averted.

If they walk into using these tools and normalise them even more, then when the other party gets the government again, you get a republican fascist, and if the other party never gets the government again, it's because you got a "democrat" fascist.

Don't race to the bottom, everyone loses there.

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 36 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

No, you use the fascist power granted by fascists to abuse the fascists who granted it in the first place. Power is the only thing that stops fascists. Start with a few nights in a black site for the justices who thought granting absolute power to the president was OK. If scotus already accepts fascism from their team it's already too late for your plan to work.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

So fascist powers for the fascists, but not for the non-fascists.

Get rid of all thet right now with whatever means IMO.

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[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

then walk back the changes

When have the Democrats ever shown us that they’ll do that?

Roe? Voting Rights act? Hell, a Republican had to save ObamaCare.

Democrats aren’t going to save us from FASCISM. The sooner everyone realizes this, the more prepared we’ll be to fight against it.

[-] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 1 points 4 months ago

Well we have a 2 party system, and that ain't changing. So if not the Democrats, who?

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You can vote for Joe Biden while realizing the Democrats won’t save us, I will. We need workers to organize to build an alternative party to Democrats and Republicans. That’s why I don’t shun those that want to vote third party. We’ll never get a third party until we ask for it. The duopoly has us pigeonholed, and we have to break ourselves out, they’re not gonna do it for us.

[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I honestly don't know why anyone is strategising as if they're on the same side as dems or any politician. I'm not even convinced we have a common enemy in Trump, because they don't seem serious about beating him.

The question you should ask when voting is "Who is my preferred enemy?" Biden won't abuse the carte blanche immunity from criminal prosecution? Great, sounds like he's the weaker enemy, so vote for him. Force him to keep the position he clearly doesn't want. Force him to disappoint his base for another four years.

While he's doing that, get to work building alternatives that meet people's needs from the bottom up and wean them off of this criminal system, to undermine it and prepare people to thrive as it crumbles.

The great thing about this political theory of change is that it's the same regardless of who's in power. It decouples you from the capricious, disempowering shifts of electoral politics.

[-] Kiernian@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

they could really tell the IRS to audit 501(c) and remove their status from the churches and bullshit Republican charities

That would be juuuuuust about the dumbest thing they could possibly do. It would mobilize gigantic swaths of voters who are heavily invested in rhetoric over fact-checking.

Doing away with Roe mobilized many of those voters who could be considered to be fence sitters towards the left. Removing church tax exemptions would move them right back and it would do NOTHING to solve the problem, because while the actual big offenders are happily USING the hell out of that tax exemption, they're rich enough that they'll get along fine without it.

It WOULD hurt a whole lot of TINY churches that employ 1-50 people per church and actually do community work, though. All of those would go away. That's a LOT of rural food shelves.

I'm largely against the religious tax exemption, but that's a problem we should worry about AFTER we can replace the nationwide infrastructure we'd be dismantling by doing so with something at least as effective as what's there now.

[-] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

It also screws over the many churches or other religious organizations that genuinely do good for their communities

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