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Germany’s first African-born MP to stand down after racist abuse
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Nazis gonna nazi. Shameful.
In Germany? I thought they got rid of those.......like........a while ago.
After the war most Nazis were allowed to keep working in government (and elsewhere) cause who else knew how to run the country?
And it’s less they got rid of them, and more others came over and kicked their arse forcing them to “get rid of them”.
There was a process : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification
That process was a bad joke.
I don't think so.
Only now are Nazis getting a foot hold again, at the same time they are getting a foot hold across the world. It is the after effects of the 2008 crash and Putin putting his thumb on scales where he can (troll farms and corruption).
The fact Germany doesn't stick out as more Nazi that France, or the US, or others, means the original denazification worked.
What? France famously did not get rid of its own collabos, and the US was always fascist leaning even back then. Given how ridiculously aggressive the AfD campaigns, I'm actually more worried about their 16% than I do about the RN's 30%.
No, they surely didn't just gain a foothold again. Many processes for "denazifizierung" were just a rubber stamping of the claims of the perpetrators. It's so ridiculous and well known that the term "Persilschein" was coined because of it. High ranking judges in the federal courts were Nazi perpetrators that even by the standards back then never should have been able to hold a job in the justice system ever again.
Places like the BND or BfV were more like SS- and other Nazi perpetrator pension schemes. Himmlers daughter, glowing Nazi for her whole life, worked for the BND as a secretary in the 60s under a false name. And they knew who she was.
Also, a big part of the student protest in the late 60s also was that many of their professors were just plain Nazis. Law commentaries like the "Palandt" or "Schönfelder" were named after Nazis and the names just changed in 2021.
In the 60's, 70's and 80's West Germany was a poster-child for Denazification and democracy, and Nazi propaganda was and is illegal in Germany.
Even Scandinavian country Sweden, hailed for their liberal policies, had more Nazis than Germany.
But after reunification the weed began to grow back. AfD popularity is very much driven by the old Communist east Germany, which was also totalitarian.
Maybe it would have been better if East and West Germany hadn't been reunited?
Nations need to learn that you can't just flood your natin with immigrants and expect shit to sort itself out. And yes, the irony is biting.
At a minimum immigrants should be required to declare they respect basic norms and requirements in our societies, and breach of them could result in expulsion.
I'm thinking norms like respecting equal rights for women, respect our democracy, and respect other minorities, and respect that their religion is not more important than our laws.
I think to some degree the extreme right is rising because this lack of respect results in lack of respect the other way too. Which is harmful both ways, both to our democracy, and to the many immigrants that actually make an effort.
Really not too feasible. Al those eastern Germans can just lie and then vote for nazis and extremists anyway. You have to integrate in an hands-on approach or not let them in in the first place.
Nah, they just went into hiding and it took them 80 years to become openly active again. Like, OPEN-open. Dude still tries to hide it behind a fig leaf but court dismissed all his lawsuits against people calling him a facist and a nazi, because "facist" and "nazi" aren't insults against him, they just accurately describe his political and ideological views.
People rush the party that houses him en masse. And as you can imagine, dude's not the only Nazi in that party. But people are too retarded to see the overlap even when it hits them in the face. Like, low income morons vote for the party whose declared goal it is to reduce social security. Might as well be a sheep voting for the wolf. Fucktards.
Hey Germany...can you wait until we (the US) are not on the nazi side before doing the whole "lose a world war" thing again?
Dude, the US is the world's biggest terrorist nation and has been for over a hunndred years. Who do you think inspired the nazis? Name three democratically elected governments the US has couped in favour of a tyrant that was happy to sell out his country to US interests in favour of power.
Come November, the US is going to have a Pro-NATO, anti-nazi leader....or the exact opposite. That is what I was referring to. Your nonsequiter comment doesn't merit engagement.
You're either quite optimistic or a trumpist trying to be smart. Either way, doesn't matter of Trump or Biden win, neither will end US terrorism. That's my point. But if Trump win, the decline of the US will accelerate.
Your point of the US doing bad shit is not relevant to the topic, just you pointing something out. The point was either "the US, that does bad shit, will either be on the good guy side or the bad guy side of the next nazi-war" the non-vatiavle of "the US also does bad shit" is not relevant. If you want to dive into that completely separate topic...one side will further entrench "US does bad shit" and the other side will maintain the status quo on "US doing bad shit" AND be the option that still allows for potential change...and also fights against the nazis.
Pick your poison.
Well the US being proto-nazis for over a hundred sounds quite relevant to "please wait until we're not on the nazi side", but you feel free to keep ignoring US terrorism. Have a nice day.