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Is it weird that I’m impressed by how minor their injuries are?
A significantly broken nose can be life altering, especially if it’s too swollen to set right away, don’t get me wrong, but they both walked away.
If I was in a fight with multiple men and I ended up on the ground, I don’t think I’m walking away. I say that as a 178cm woman who’s stronger than most.
I dunno. I read it after seeing your comment and it suprised by your assessment. Black eyes take forever to heal. They have to see that every day in the mirror for weeks while also trying to deal with the trauma of the attack.
I think it's great they walked away, but then again, doesn't seem like the kind of situation where it's a group of people looking to maim or kill
I got punched in the face at 24yr, and it never fully recovered. My eye is ok, but any time there's the slightest bit of facial swelling - tired, allergies, etc. the cheek under that eye pouches up and droops markedly.
I’m absolutely not minimizing their injuries, but I would expect myself to die in that situation. They handled themselves much better in the fight than I think I would.
I’m surprised how serious you take black eyes
The story could easily be “racist woman gets punched in face after saying something”
What? Where does it say at all in the article that these woman were racist to the guys before being attacked?
Apparently the women started it, got hit, then the attack was over and everything was civil when police arrived
That isn’t indicative of an attack, and as highlighted above the damage done is pretty minimal for 10 on 2
However the side you take will change the version of events you believe. My point was just that the media is taking a biased approach to the story and could flip it the other way if they wanted
the article clearly says the men made sexually degrading insults to begin with. did you ignore that part?
Oh good so you caught the part where the article was displaying a bias
My statement wouldn’t have made sense if you didn’t
Did you catch the part where she says the men claim she started it and the media didn’t follow up on it?
so, in doubt, you side with the men?
Lol, I haven’t taken a side
I just pointed out a bias and that there isn’t enough information for anyone to take a side
we tend to show bias towards the victims. even if those women started it, they shouldn't have been beaten... by men. if you're a man, you don't touch a woman unless it's self defense.
you really come off as some kind of edgy teen douche. are you an edgy teen douche?
That guy is a troll, and he's not even good at it. The faux high road crap is giving him away.
because it's impossible that someone in the 21st century has actual morals? you people are fucked.
I was talking about the dude siding with the guys who beat up two women. Hes a troll. Sorry for not being more clear on that... I just didn't want to tag him and give him more attention.
my bad
Np!
We don’t know who the victim is
All we know is the woman claims to be the victim and the men claim to be the victim
Equality, you don’t touch anyone unless it’s self defence
the victim is the WOMAN, how was beaten mercilessly by a GROUP OF MEN. jesus christ, people. only in a morally bankrupt society would this even be a question.
Weird then that you would advocate this
When presumably some of those people would be women
women aren't a fey creature that is innately good.
also, i don't see a long term solution for humanity that doesn't involve cracking a few eggs to make an omelet. it's a simple trolley dilemma.
But wasn’t that your argument?
no, it wasn't. feel free to ask me any question that would clarify my stance for you.
Why would you highlight their gender? If not to say they deserve elevated status
they deserve to not be bullied by an opponent who is physically more powerful than they are. good god, dude. do i seriously have to explain this concept? there's a reason why you're not supposed to hit a woman.
How does that align with this?
Says who? You just come off as extremely sexist. The line is “don’t hit PEOPLE”
well, at the risk of turning you away from understanding my point, i've decided that i'd like to hurl insults back: you come off as extremely short sighted and obtuse.
i agree with "don't hit people", but if you think a woman hitting you justifies you hitting her back and you're male, you're a piece of shit. restrain? sure. defend your own life by any means necessary? sure. but if your ego can't take getting slapped by a woman, you might be a fucking incel.
progressive and gentleman are not exclusive concepts. gender is asymmetrical balanced. men and women are not perfectly equal. they are asymmetrically equal. understand the difference, and understand that if i see you hit a woman in retaliation, i'm going to remove some of your teeth, punk.
You’re drawing lines where there is no need to have them
Just blatant sexism, an equal amount of force is going to dependent on you size and strength not your gender
You are assuming a man will always be stronger than a woman
Past thar though you already established you don’t believe it needs to only be in self defence as you argue for rounding up and exiling people
obviously there are exceptions to every rule. if big bertha comes at me with a giant ham fist, she might get hit back, but in the vast majority of cases, the male is physically dominant and therefore has a duty to use that power responsibly.
and yes, i advocate rounding up and exiling people that stand as obstacles to a better world. what's your solution?
They're Canadian.
Broken nose, broken teeth and black eyes? This was a normal day at whale shit hockey.
IIUC, that's a mostly consensual activity.
translation: it's a "minor injury" because they're Canadian, and hockey is more violent than a gang of thugs.