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My partner's old hyundai genesis always "smelled" like the engine had been running "hot" despite being fully OEM with no mods. Any time she drove back from a store and parked in the garage, I could go out an 20 later and smell that hot metal engine. Never had another car that smelled like the engine was running hot/hard.
Car only lasted ten years before the timing chain slipped off the pulley and destroyed the engine block. We'll never own another hyundai/kia product ever again that's for sure
Timing belt gets inspected at 60k miles and I believe replaced at 90k. I would assume belt slipping off at 10 years would be due to lack of proper maintenance.
Not a belt, it was a chain. The car was regularly maintained and moderately driven (about 150k miles on the odo) - it's a very common failure on these engines. They suck
I’m pretty sure I read the chain on genesis engines gets replaced at 120k if applicable.
A timing chain (not timing "belt) is designed to last the life of the vehicle. Oil maintenance of a car with a timing chain is an absolute must, but the chain isn't routinely replaced... if ever. So a 10 year life-span is pretty crap, if the oil changes were maintained. Even 120k miles puts a 10 year car at 1,000 miles per month, which is relatively heavy usage.
I assume the genesis 120k replacement has more to do with the nylon guides and/or shit quality, if that's the recommendation
I’m not saying 120k is great, but I’m suspect that a timing chain slipped off at 150k with obvious signs of impending failure. Maybe the local mechanic they took it too wasn’t following the recommended inspection interval? Most shops only care that you replace your nearly new oil every 3k miles and sell you $50 wiper blades. I’ve never had a non-dealer pull out a factory maint schedule.
I missed the part where the car was at 150k, so I see what you're saying now. I just saw the "10 years" and was thinking that, with average driving and regular maintenance, that would be pretty shite. But at 150k, yeah... there would be some warning signs before it just slipped off, but it could be overlooked if "regular maintenance" is all that was being done
I was told when I was a kid, "after about every 50k, ya need to take the car in for a 'tune-up' and have it looked at", and it's not the worst advice
You had me laugh with replacing "nearly new oil every 3k miles" though. And every time, they're trying to upsell me on the damn wipers and airfilters. Like, it's ok I've got that covered when I need them... yes, I know it can affect gas mileage... just put the damn airlfilter back! I just need the oil changed please
Do you mean timing belt? (Chains don't go on pulleys) You're supposed to change those... That's just called not maintaining your vehicle
It was a timing chain - it failed somehow and destroyed the engine. It's a well known issue with this specific engine block which is why they stopped making them and they're impossible to find new-in-crate engines for this car.
Which year/model or engine? Worth noting many car manufacturers have struggled with timing chain issues on at least one engine. VW struggled with it on more than one engine, BMW, I'm pretty sure there was even a Honda or Toyota engine that had a weak timing chain system at some point. If they actually stopped making the engine because of it, good on them, because other manufacturers (especially VW) definitely don't. Other Hyundai engines have rock solid reputations. One bad experience is called an anecdote, and it's not a good reason to discredit a brand.
It was a Theta II 2.0L FR Turbo MPI (G4KF).
But I'm not just going off my experience. My good friend owns a well known mechanics shop in town, he told us these engines are garbage and he sees it often on these early genesis coupes.
Ah yeah that one wasn't a very good one, it got recalled for crankshaft manufacturing defects and they got sued when the problem ended up being worse than anticipated and the money they set aside wasn't enough. The early genesis coupes were also pretty unreliable in general. Actually, I'd say Hyundai was unreliable in general in the 2000s. They were a mixed bag, the 2009 Elantra had a rock solid drivetrain but crappy electronics for example, and the theta 2 engines were plagued with failures. But pretty much anything 2015+ is rock solid, they seem to have learned from that one.
I didn't realize you were talking about Hyundai as of like 15 years ago, though that should have been obvious since the car in your story was 10 years old
Ya know, amongst the Hyundai hate, I kinda forgot that my first car was a used 2003 XG350... and I did love that thing. Drove it into the ground, but it really held it's own until I finally had to scrap it in 2017.
I switched to Honda because simple repairs are easier and parts are normally cheaper. And it's just overall, a better and more reliable car. But that xg350 was pretty damn good to me
They were also pretty reliable in the 90s bleeding into the early 2000s lol
I think I got lucky with that one. Changing the alternator was a huge pain in my ass, but it mostly performed as expected and was otherwise incredibly reliable. RIP my first car, you were good to me
Lol yeah it was a 2013 Genesis - the last year they were able to use the wings logo before they got sued by bentley and forced to remove it
Need to show this to my wife she loves her Hyundai even though it is a piece of shit. Runs like shit everytime you fill it with gas.
My partner loved that car, I told them constantly "it's a beautiful looking car, but it's a hyundai" - damn I hated being right when that engine failed