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submitted 4 months ago by Owl@hexbear.net to c/technology@hexbear.net

Just because the internet of things was two hype cycles ago doesn't mean we can't still dunk on it.

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[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago

These shoes were so expensive when they came out. I don’t see why it’s such a big deal to keep supporting the app. It doesn’t mean they need to dedicate a dev team. ...

Don't they 100% have to dedicate development time to updating this thing? I'm not a big computer dork, but I'm pretty sure applications don't just magically work with all device updates.

[-] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 30 points 4 months ago

People need to just stop updating devices. Years of updates and what is it all for, just to require updates for your updates

[-] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago

What happens when your shoes are the target of an attack using a security vulnerability that your shoes aren't patched against?

owl-pissed What then, hmm?

[-] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago

Speaking as an IT professional, unironically this

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

I wish android didnt just forcibly update itself

[-] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

LineageOS doesn't just forcibly update itself

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago

Ah dang, regretting buying a unihertz phone now

[-] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Which Unihertz phone? People have reported successfully running LineageOS on Jelly Star and Jelly 2. The builds they're using were updated within the past month, and are maintained by a recognized contributor.

Warning: On every device I've installed LineageOS (6 of them so far), I've accidentally soft-bricked it and had to restore it before doing it correctly. So back everything up that you don't want to lose.

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago

Jelly Star. Any recs for how to back up my phone?

[-] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Probably using TWRP. Note that the backup is only good for before you switch to LineageOS. After you're on LineageOS, you'll need to make a new backup.

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[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago

We were using a fork we customuzed of an open source package (we will merge our additions but the team wants us to wait until they're done with a major revision). At some point another upstream package made a fundamental change that broke everything. So we learned the hard way to have upper bounds on all required package version numbers lol. That was such a pain to investigate.

[-] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Lol, sounds like the work I would do at my job. But absolutely! This is why there should always be a >= and <= version requirement on dependencies.

Dooown with needless updates no-fun-allowed

[-] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

I sold my soul to the google play store.

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 25 points 4 months ago

It shouldn't take any development time, but the app stores are all run on over-caffeinated ferret logic, so yeah, they do need to have someone update.

Keeping things updated is like a week of work for one junior developer every few years. A small team could do it for a large company's apps in perpetuity. But under the ideology of capitalist software management, keeping such a team around is functionally impossible. (They would have idle time, some manager would see that and give them extra work, then when the app updating job picked back up, that manager would convince everyone that the other work they were doing is more important than updating apps.)

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