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They still run modern OpenBSD (and maybe Linux) well, not that any of these people do that lol. My PC laptop broke recently and all I have for mobile stuff is an old Powerbook now (very nice machines tbh)
That being said, compiling Firefox or Chrom{e,ium} is now an impossible task on any machine with less than 4 GB of RAM
. Will have to see if I can get Firefox to build in an emulator and run that on a real machine, assuming all the Rust/LLVM infrastructure even works on PowerPC cuz no one cares anymore :(
There is (or was) a fork of Firefox with a bunch of security patches back ported to it for Mac OS 10.4. Lemmy won't work on it, but most non PWA/insane javascript based websites will.
RIP TenFourFox :(
Honestly so impressive they supported it as long as they did, web browsers are ridiculously complicated. Must have been a ton of work to keep it running on ancient PowerPC Mac OS X
Are we supposed to build our own Firefoxes from source?
Only if no one posts Firefox binaries for your weird operating system and computer architecture anymore/ever
Ohhhhhhhhh okay!!! Rip btw =)
Yehhh :(
My Powerbook is still the most nicely built laptop I have ever had and I got it for like 20$ on Ebay
Not to mention the cool as hell hardware and Open Firmware implementation (why couldn't we get Open Firmware everywhere instead of UEFI
or even worse... U-Boot)
If you're not familiar, Open Firmware is like a PC BIOS with a full text-based programming environment embedded in it
You can even write drivers in it and have the operating system use those
Yo what's Open Firmware? When would Apple have something open, yeah I did not know that was a thing, that sounds like it slaps. What made Apple adopt this???
Open Firmware is a specification for software built into your computer that brings all the hardware up and boots your operating system. On PCs, there was/is something analogous called the BIOS but Intel has made something more modern called UEFI (which I don't know too much about tbh)
What makes Open Firmware so cool is you get a full Forth programming environment (stack-based programming language) to work with within moments of turning on your computer which makes it really versatile. I'm not too sure of the exact history but when Apple, IBM, Motorola were developing the PowerPC architecture in the 90s and they needed some kind of standard software to bring up their computers they decided on an Open Firmware implementation
Maybe I should write a longer post about it
And brb, made plans to
with friend
I will read and upbear that post, sounds rad :)
So aside from just being a Bios But Cooler, what're the actual practical applications of having a Forth environment at boot? I'm picturing somethin like the boot disks for old microcomputers, which were iirc much closer to hardware than something like Windoze.