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[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 56 points 4 months ago

It's Ukraine, without the article. It's more respectful towards the country.

[-] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

Thanks for pointing it out. I always write "the Ukraine" because it's how we write it in my native language. I didn't even know in English the article is used for non sovereign counties. It's really hard to avoid the extra article here, as in for example German, we use "the Ukraine" exclusively, as it's female. It's the same with the Netherlands, the Turkey, the Switzerland. Never even heard before this could imply denying sovereignty.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

In English it implies it's a geographical region rather than a nation's name. The exceptions are for nations that have an adjectival element. The United States, The Democratic Republic of Wherever, etc.

It's petty semantics that passes by most, but the people that translate Russian official statements in English are aware of the difference and made a point of it for decades specifically to attack Ukraine's standing in America and the Commonwealth.

Generally speaking, it's a minor enough distinction that no one would care if Russia didn't.

[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 3 points 4 months ago

The Gambia is an exception, as it is the official name of the country: The Republic of the Gambia.

[-] Wiz@midwest.social 14 points 4 months ago

Yeah, the "the" is Russian propaganda, intended to strip Ukraine if its sovereignty.

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I thought they put the article back on reddit...ok I'll see my self out now.

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