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this post was submitted on 02 Aug 2023
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Here we are, with rabid FOSS fanboys complaining about tracking in an Android app. Probably posting these angry threads from their Samsungs, loaded down with baked in spyware and adware, and acting superior cause they fiddled around on DuckDuckGo long enough to figure out how to install F-Droid and think now they're elite hackers in total control of their device and data.
If you're running a stock ROM, you've already given all your data away to the manufacturer and Google, at the very least. So don't come on Lemmy bitching about tracking, when half of you wouldn't know what privacy was if I beat you to death with it.
You exquisite knobs. You absolute baffoons.
Yeah and we all know that if you're not using a dumb phone and an Unix machine disconnected from the internet you're an exquisite knob and shouldn't worry about privacy at all and anyone should have the right to access your data.
What a bullshit take.
You're like a dog, loaded down with ticks, complaining about the single flea on him. That's what you sound like, you know?
I didn't complain about sync's privacy policy or closed source anywhere. I just think your comment is weird and it's a strange hill you're dying on.
Why is it starting to smell like reddit in here already?
I mean disagreements are inevitable if you're on a platform posting comments and stuff. But also I'm already tired of discussions like this. Let's just leave it at that.
Oh, pipe down!
With that username of yours? Absolutely not.
such ur ass up
Because we are all from reddit....
I was only saying that joining lemmy was a chance to get away from pointless arguments about nothing that no one else cares about. It has been a place of polite and reasonable discussion where disagreements are just differences in opinion and not arguments.
If it just becomes reddit 2.0 that will be a shame.
Why would redditors who left reddit be different because the URL changed? People may have left for a variety of reasons, but that has little to do with their commenting or posting style. At most maybe communities of interests thst gain traction,, but that doesn't make them anymore special than the average internet user.
Up to a point it seemed like the ones that wanted to argue all the time were the ones who didnt care what was happening to reddit because of spez so they stayed on reddit. But thats starting to change.
Although i would say its quite inaccurate of you to reduce the differences between reddit and lemmy to a URL change. Theres quite a bit different between them and if you think this is just a new place for people to be dicks to eachother then you might be part of the problem.
Why waste a chance to start fresh and be different? Why would you want this to be the internets toilet paper 2.0
I just left because I wanted to try something that wasn't run by a corporation for the intention of monetizing the user base. I didn't expect any different when it came to behavior which is why I had been hoping for RES type levels of filtering to become available as the userbase grew, since I knew it would be necessary to start curating content. Welcome to the internet.
People who use the phrase "welcome to the internet" unironically, are the worst.
Ive been here since day one of the reddit black outs and i can tell you that, regardless of my expectations, i found this place to be much more harmonious and polite in terms of discussion.
There was a brief period of time where i found myself posting something relatively innocuous and then bracing for an argument that never came.
You say you just expect lemmy to be as bad as reddit, and i say that's kind of the problem.
I never said I expect lemmy to be bad as reddit. Actually I'd say my experience in reddit has been really positive until the end. I mainly used stuff like RES to block stuff I didn't have interest in which tends to clutter /r/all. Made /r/all nicer experience seeing more content I wanted that I might add to my collection of subreddits I enjoyed until the end.
Anyways, what it sounds like you want is heavier moderation, which in that case I recommend places like beehaw. Moderation is an important part of setting the atmosphere.
Weird thing is I didn't even see much over the line behavior from this discussion thread over all. Aside from some few comments throwing in unnecessary personal insults. You actually have been partaking in personal attacks despite making yourself seem above it, so check yourself on that too. But, overall it's just people disagreeing about the app which is fine. I'd say it's been cordial overall.
Not sure what personal attacks you are referring to. I would happily conceed if you can show me/point me to an example.
You said above that you didnt expect the behavior here to be any different to reddit which is why you use filters to avoid the toxicity. I took that to mean you found the behaviour on reddit to be bad and thought it would be the same on lemmy. Was that not what you meant?
Also im not the one who threw out a "welcome to the internet" like it was some kind of slam dunk to shut my point down.
I dont want to argue about this, feel free to give your response but then lets put this to bed.
You are the one who insinuated that I am unironically the worst and that I am part of the problem. If you are going to act like you are above other people at least try to behave more cordial if it's people behaving like "dicks" that has you riled up.
And my main point of welcome to the internet wasn't some dunk. It was implying that people here aren't anymore superior or special over people on reddit. Despite what people back on reddit liked to believe and some people on lemmy now. As I said before. Key to a space having the atmosphere you desire isn't the individuals, but moderation. It's the mods holding things together more than the individuals who are just as unruly as any other userbase if not kept in check. As much as users like to believe themselves to be superior there needs to be some humbling in that area. Moving to lemmy does not make them a special group than the people who stayed back on reddit that is a group above the negatives of reddit.
As for filtering? Well I usually have blocked all news, politics, and a whole bunch of meme focused communities over the years on reddit. The default subs like pics, funny, gifs, askreddit, etc. Would you put those subs in the category of toxicity? There are others reasons people block than a community itself being toxic. I'll go out of my way to block entertainment I'm interested in just to try to reduce chances of spoilers. Filtering benefit to me isn't just for toxicity, but curation in the absence of algorithms. I can understand the confusion though if your use was only for blocking toxic communities.
I said that people that use the phrase without irony are the worst.
I know thata not much different as im still insinuating that people like that are the worst. But im entitled to my opinion. I wasnt aiming it directly at you. But i accept that it sort of includes you if you meant it unironically. But i dont know one way or the other if you did.
Welcome to the internet is very condescending and i was simply clapping back. Dont put that on me if you started it.
I dont think im above people. Or above you. Im sorry that what i wrote came of that way, it was not my intention.
I also only questioned that you might be part of the problem based on what you were saying aboit not expecting thinga to be different here. I think thats pretty valid and isnt talking down to someone.
I think you are are maybe seeing something thats not there.
Im sorry i offended you. Im sorry i lumped you in with other people who i see as dicks.
If it's a hill I'm gonna die on, I'm sure I'll be downvoted into oblivion.
Posted from my LineageOS phone, no gapps, microG, only foss apps.
I hope you felt good and happy writing your comment, unlike the rabid, angry, superior acting, elite hacker, bitches, knobs, baffoons FOSS fanboys.
Yes I did, thank you for your concern.
It's already getting old tbh
What's with the insults just because people aren't using Sync? I don't understand the fanaticism of worship that seems to be around it that people react in this manner to those who decide to not use it.
Sync has an extremely fanatical fan base that orbits around its dev on their discord. It's like a whole community, they think of the head dev as their friend, and they get extremely defensive of Sync.
Because one time a a few years ago a bunch of users complained about a really bad UI change, and the dev was so hurt he stopped developing for a bit. So they took it upon themselves to be his personal goon squad, dispatch from the discord if someone shares a negative post about sync there.
That makes sense. Discord communities help foster more of a fan base with the increased level of interactions and live chatting people can have each other. So its probably much more personal to them whereas for us it's just another product to use or not.
Well, Sync brought more of the yucky Reddit people which were a minority in the first migration.
I use Jerboa, which is the best client for Lemmy, not Sync.
The best lemmy client is the one you like the most, I'm using Thunder, but someone could hate it and use liftoff or jerboa or something
Did it? I'm not seeing any more activity than normal in the last 24 hours, to spite that 10k downloads number on Google play
People that diss open source are dumbass dipshits. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Open source software runs most of the Internet and this social media platform. It has provide more value to every one of us than any closed source retail software ever could.
And yes I do care about privacy. I only run de-googled AOSP phones and my home network has pi-hole and a VPN. So I will go on and on about how FOSS is better, thank you very much.
Exactly where did I diss open source? Did you read my comment, or just jump to the reply button?
I copied and pasted my own comment from another thread, because I thought it was still good haha. Maybe it doesn't apply perfectly but I think the sentiment is relevant.
At least you were 💯 about it which is a rare thing to see
Agreed.