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The shooter was 12 when Trump was first elected. archive

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[-] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 13 points 4 months ago

It was reported that the weapon was his father’s.

Sometimes not even a safe will keep everything locked up. With enough time you can saw through most of the commercially available ones.

[-] daltotron@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

With enough time you can saw through most of the commercially available ones.

This is technically true but with the amount of time and effort it takes to get through a good portion of the safes I've seen, it would honestly be easier to go and steal one from some schmuck with a truck gun or whatever that's insecurely, uhhh, secured.

[-] Tom_Hanx_Hail_Satan@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

There are insurance/registration issues that can address that. Of course there endless possible hypotheticals. I'm personally in favor of some sort of "drivers license" equivalent for guns.

But a 21 year old age limit almost certainly would have prevented Uvalde.

[-] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 months ago

I am highly skeptical of registration because there is a 99.99% certainty that it will be the GOP to use it and strip away weapons from anyone who is not a registered Republican.

[-] Bgugi@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Aside from the rather extreme criticisms (genocide stuff), universal registration is a bad idea for everyone because these things keep getting hacked/leaked:

If you are on the registry, it's an invitation to descrimination or careful/skilled burglary.

If you aren't on the registry, it's an invitation for violent crime with little/no resistance.

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

disagree. if people want to do something, terrible or not, they will find a way illegally.

I'm going to go very basic here and say look at piracy.

[-] Tom_Hanx_Hail_Satan@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

Piracy bro lol there's apples and oranges but that's skateboards and dinosaurs.

Even with your point being valid there's tremendous value for society for making somethings as hard as possible.

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

sure, but people will find a way.

[-] Gumbyyy@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Do we know in this case whether or not the gun was even kept in a safe?

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