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In a post-scarcity solarpunk future, I could imagine some reasonable uses, but that’s not the world we’re living in yet.
AI art has already poisoned the creative environment. I commissioned an artist for my latest solarpunk novel, and they used AI without telling me. I had to scrap that illustration. Then the next person I tried to hire claimed they could do the work without AI but in fact they could not.
All that is to say, fuck generative AI and fuck capitalism!
@atrielienz let's look at writing computer code. LLMs used public copyrighted code to get really good at writing code blocks. That's like 85% of my job, but I don't care that they are making me obsolete because that means I can now spend more time figuring out how to do better science.
Artists should do the same. Anything that could be adequately created by thinking of a good text prompt should be done in 10 s and spend the rest of the time on hard creative stuff 🤷♀️
This is a terrible one to one comparison. I can't even begin to tear this apart it's so bad. LLM'S aren't even good at writing code which is like half the reason people have to go back and fix the code they generate.
Artists don't do art because it's work. They do art because they like to create things. You code because it's work which is why you don't care.
@atrielienz ok, this is just insulting. I write code ONLY because I want to create things. I have dozens of open source projects that I've built over the years. But I don't care about writing the code even though it's fun sometimes.
I write the code to create the thing. And if artists cared about creation they'd use whatever tool they could. The only reason to not want an AI alternative tool is to create a moat to keep getting paid for work that could be made cheaper.
You started with the insults when you basically claimed that artists should feel the way you do about writing code about making art. You know that's not how that works. If it makes things quicker for you, that's great. But making it "quicker" for the artist to make a piece isn't the same thing and it was disingenuous of you to claim otherwise. It's especially egregious considering that what's actually happening is non-artists are making "art" using LLM's and companies are buying that art because it's cheap thereby pushing real artists who actually are doing work out of the market entirely.
A cabinet maker might use a band saw to make his life easier but just having the band saw make the whole cabinet because it's faster? That's not how that works.