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Biden Claims He's Done 'More for the Palestinian Community Than Anybody'
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Persecution of Jews in WW2 Germany started before 1936. The Holocaust start date was 1933. You're casually leaving out the 150K that went to Palestine from 1931 to 1936.
Jews being suppressed in whatever country you're in is bad but I'm going to guess you're not in America. Other countries also have problems suppressing other ethnic groups that's not a Jews specific thing. Creating an Ethnostate by Genociding natives is proven to not solve this safety issue as we can see in Palestine right now. Jews are far safer in America than in israel which really begs the question why israel needs to exist.
But if you think ethnically cleansing a land to create a "safe space" is a solution, then remember that all Hitler wanted to do was to "create a safe space for his Ubermensch"as well.
I'm not a walking history book, and my time is limited. Besides, these people were coming from many places, not just Germany. If you (or anyone else for that matter) wants to explore the topic further there are plenty of books out there.
Because it already exists, and the people live there, call it home, and have done so for generations. They have a right to defend its existence. The same can be asked for the Palestinian Territories, or most other homelands of persecuted peoples. There are other, safer places, but this is their home.
I would also mention that recent events have highlighted that the US really can't be counted on being/remaining safe, for people in general. Your political system is fucked up, is taking away basic rights from people, and political violence is on the rise.
Israel ceasing would in all likelihood mean genocide. Given the actions of Hamas on October 7th, there would be not tens of thousands of dead if the state of Israel "just stopped existing", but hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dead. Even if the state was gone, the people it was protecting would still be there.
There needs to be peace, for all involved. That is what I think, not more, not less.
I also won't deign you any further replies, given how you don't seem interested in civil discussion, but rather strawmen and drawing warped parallells where there are none.
You are indeed not a walking history book. It's one Hasbara after the next. Clearly you have been fully unable to learn anything about what israel is during the last 9 months of Genocide and are fully unwilling to do so.