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[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago

Hitler came into power because the liberal PM appointed him chancellor to avoid creating a coalition with the left party. Liberals would rather work with a fascist over a socialist any day of the week.

[-] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

See: The new French government

Macron had the option of forming a coalition with the leftists, who won a plurality of the seats. Instead, he joined forces with the nationalist party on the right.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

"Ve can control zem."

[-] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

That's a lie; Paul Von Hindenburg was an a outspoken Monarchist.

[-] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

These are mutually exclusive?

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

SPD has been a liberal center-left party since it's founding. Hindenburg's closely held political beliefs had no bearing on the outcome of a liberal party avoiding a coalition with socialists by appointing a fascist to chancellor.

[-] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 4 months ago

SPD has been a liberal center-left

That's a contradiction in terms: Liberalism is a right-wing philosophy; it can't be center-left. JFC you idiots are all the same. Sometimes I wonder if y'all're capable of having 2 consistent thoughts. Go on, tell me about how anyone who isn't an ML is a liberal (including Anarchists) and every Liberal is a fascist.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Look, I don't get to control how people classify political parties. That is how SPD has always been defined. Centrist parties have always had a variety of status quo-esque ideologies. Hindenburg was a monarchist and a member of the SPD, because monarchy was the recently departed political system and he wanted a return to the status quo. Liberals were also a part of SPD, and there are a variety of samey progressive liberal ideologies that seek to entrench capitalism while providing social benefits to the people. That is how a liberal center-left party can exist.

And for the record, I'm an anarcho-syndicalist.

[-] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

Alright, fair enough.

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