765

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., has issued a dire warning to her party about the chaos that could ensue if they succeed in pushing President Joe Biden off the ticket. And she criticized Democrats who’ve given off-the-record quotes that suggest the party has resigned itself to a second Trump term.

In an Instagram Live video on Thursday, Ocasio-Cortez warned liberals that a brokered convention could lead to chaos, in part because she says some of the Democratic “elites” who want Biden out also don’t want Vice President Kamala Harris as the nominee in his place. 

“If you think that is going to be an easy transition, I’m here to tell you that a huge amount of the donor class and these elites who are pushing for the president not to be the nominee also do not want to see the VP be the nominee,” she said. 

Ocasio-Cortez claimed none of the people she’s spoken with who are calling on Biden to drop out — including lawmakers and legal experts — have articulated a plan to swap out the nominee without minimizing the serious legal and procedural challenges that are likely to ensue. 

Ocasio-Cortez also highlighted the racial, ethnic and class divisions that appear to have formed between the majority of those pining to blow up the ticket — led mostly by white Democrats and media pundits — and those elected officials who feel they and their constituents have too much at stake to upend the process at this point and so are willing to do the work to re-elect Biden-Harris. She alluded to this cultural divide in her video when she spoke out against anonymous sources expressing a sense of fatalism on behalf of Democrats about what might happen if Biden remains on the ticket: 

What I will say is what upsets me is [Democrats] saying we will lose. For me, to a certain extent, I don’t care what name is on there. We are not losing. I don’t know about you, but my community does not have the option to lose. My community does not have the luxury of accepting loss in July of an election year. My people are the first ones deported. They’re the first ones put in Rikers. They’re the first ones whose families are killed by war.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

IMO; Biden shouldn’t be forced out.

That way does lead to chaos, and a worse chance in November than with Biden.

Though Biden sucks as a candidate and is very unlikely to win as things now stand.

So, imo, best-case, is Biden choosing to step down. and choosing to stump and campaign full-hog whoever does become president.

[-] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

I wish our political leaders were rational enough to listen when everyone tells them their wrong and that their putting ego before their responsibilities.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Everyone isn't saying that about Biden. Monied interests are saying that about Biden.

[-] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago

Biden cannot be forced out. It is Biden's decision. There is no harm in discussing this topic while we're waiting for the nomination. Biden has until the virtual convention that is scheduled for the start of August to make a decision. Either option, Biden staying in or dropping out of the race has risks. We need to rally around whoever the candidate ends up being.

I think it makes strategic sense for Harris to takeover and pick Whitmer for her VP. My opinion is a moot point, because I have no say in this. Unfortunately it doesn't seem like Biden is thinking about odds and strategy. He's thinking about his ego.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Sure he can be forced out.

There’s lots of ways. Like the DNC deciding “nope”.

Even if they don’t go that way, donors pull out, party backstabbing.

Plenty of things to do.

[-] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Biden cannot be forced out based on the Democratic Party's rules as written. The Democratic Party changing the rules to dump Biden would be a historic first. It would be a bashed-slammed-bomb-cyclone-fire-tornado-buzz-word news story that would be the only headline for days, maybe weeks.

Donors are already pulling out. Fundraising is down. Obama signaled Biden should drop out. There will undoubtedly be more in the next two weeks. edit: typo

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
[-] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Sure, they can do whatever they want. See how doing whatever they want plays with voters though. This would be taking the nuclear option for political parties. If the Democratic Party forced out Biden, angry and/or apathetic Americans would be talking about it for at least the next two election cycles, possibly longer. That's assuming we win of course and the Republican Party hasn't killed us all in death camps.

edit: This would be different than Bernie. Biden has won the primary based on the DNC's rules. edit: typo

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Donors have already pulled out saying they want a new candidate. They aren't stupid enough to throw away their money on a candidate that will 100% lose.

And the Trump campaign hasn't even started the big spending.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Doners don't want Biden's tax hikes, it's not about electability.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

They would have demanded Biden to step down far earlier if this was the case.

And they would never have backed 2020 Biden to begin with.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

They waited until they saw weakness.

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Well, congrats I guess

this post was submitted on 20 Jul 2024
765 points (96.5% liked)

politics

19097 readers
5108 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS