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Anon is an anthropologist (sh.itjust.works)
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[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Oldest stone axes are like a million years.

We're not the first smart species.

[-] arefx@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago

I just looked this up because it sounds fake and guess what....

Looks like it is!

[-] Hegar@fedia.io 2 points 4 months ago

It's not fake. @Dasus@lemmy.world is correct. Stone axes, fire control, language, carpentry, glue, ocean travel - heaps of smart things predate homo sapiens sapiens. We're not the first smart species.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

What is?

That there are tools older than a million years?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldowan

The Oldowan (or Mode I) was a widespread stone tool archaeological industry (style) in prehistory. These early tools were simple, usually made by chipping off one, or a few, flakes off using another stone. Oldowan tools were used during the Lower Paleolithic period, 2.9 million years ago up until at least 1.7 million years ago (Ma), by ancient Hominins (early humans) across much of Africa. This technological industry was followed by the more sophisticated Acheulean industry (two sites associated with Homo erectus at Gona in the Afar Region of Ethiopia dating from 1.5 and 1.26 million years ago have both Oldowan and Acheulean tools[2]).

I genuinely don't know what or how you "looked it up". Please, do enlighten me, I'm not trying to offend. Some sort of a misunderstanding?

[-] arefx@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago

This is a sharp rock, not an axe.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

You say potato, I say tomato.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_axe

[-] arefx@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

A bit dishonest for you to present it as an axe as most people would picture it. It's a rock with a kinda sharp edge, no where near as advanced as an axe with a handle. I've seen animals sharpen rocks, it's not that impressive. And pretty removed to just assume it was people 800,000 years early.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

It's literally the scientific consensus. You thinking of a cartoon axe with a wedge-shape and an oak handle when you hear the word "axe" isn't my problem.

I've seen animals sharpen rocks, it's not that impressive. And pretty removed to just assume it was people 800,000 years early.

These hand axes are incredibly complex and it takes hundreds of hours to learn to make one. It is not my fault you're scientifically ignorant and still silly enough to think your childish notions are better than prevailing scientific notions.

Here's some proof of earliest structural use of wood at least 476,000 years ago. And that doesn't mean piling sticks together, it means actual woodworking, joinery.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06557-9

When you're in biology class and you see an image of an egg cell, do you start flailing around saying "that's not an egg, that's a picture of a slimy circle, eggs are what hens poop out, they're egg-shaped and made of egg-shell"?

Really not my problem that you don't believe in science.

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