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Why respect a Genocidal maniac for stepping down only when forced to do so?
Just be happy he's not running anymore nobody's buying these fairy tales about how great he is.
If Biden is a “genocidal maniac”, what do you label actual “genocidal maniacs”
Are you denying Biden is complicit in Genocide?
If Biden is a “genocidal maniac”, what do you label actual “genocidal maniacs”
Gotcha. You are refusing to answer questions. You have no logical response.
Are you the director of the secret service?
Uh oh, it appears you are stuck in a loop!
Do you always answer questions with questions? Are you unable to ever answer a question?
Do you understand what genocide even is?
Any other statement? Maybe something with substance to engage in discussion? Or do you just want to keep seething?
Are you denying that you have zero geopolitical experience whatsoever? Because unless you do, you have no fucking clue what Biden's options even are, being that you're a one note armchair political scientist without the ability to even acknowledge the most basic of realities surrounding the situation.
You obsessively post about this issue several times every day to the point that it would be weird even if you yourself were both a Palestinian and also have hard evidence that Biden himself pulled the trigger every single time someone died.
Your obsession here is beyond strange, and it makes it impossible for anyone observing to think something weird isn't going on with you
It's so fascinating that you simultaneously think that people can't possibly know anything about politics if they don't have geopolitical experience, and yet you can be absolutely certain that there is no way biden could be guilty of killing Palestinians unless he is personally executing them. Your self contradictions are so blatant, but you seem to still be completely blind to them. When you grow up, you will look back on this version of yourself as so childish.
Yeah it's super hard logic but bare with me. We have supported Israel since its inception. As outsiders, we don't really understand the impact of pulling funding. There you have it, you have no fucking clue. I know, that was really challenging to understand. But you can do it, provided you stop working for Vladimir for a moment.
Yeah given that we have no evidence to suggest that he personally did anything, and we also know that Israel has already been receiving funding since always, I have no reason to be sure of fuck-all that you would suggest. In fact you've given piles of reasons to discard your every single word.
So are you changing your story from biden is innocent to biden may be innocent or may be guilty, and you have no way of knowing?
In the same way that the head of secret service just got fired for the assassination attempt, the person in charge of the country is responsible when millions of tax dollars go to fund an ongoing genocide. That's just how it works. The leader is responsible for what the group does. Especially when the leader is crucial in directing funds.
I'm changing jackshit, scumbag who literally last night claimed that trump bombed zero people until it was proven that was a lie and then denied they ever said that. Leave this platform. Pro-Trump russian trolls are not welcome here.
I fixed my own slight mistake. It is absolutely true that Trump played almost no part in any wars, he definetly did not facilitate a genocide. The fact that you are clinging to this is very telling. You are acting like someone who punched someone in the face is as bad as a serial killer. There actually are arguments that you could have, but you don't even know what they are. All you know is you are supposed to dislike trump, you haven't the slightest idea why, and you have the fact that you are supposed to like the guy who won't stop genociding. You are confused and angry. It's a bit sad.
Yes it is VERY TELLING that I care that you lied. You are simply too stupid to continue to talk to
You are almost entirely uneducated on the issue, you didn't even know that biden is supplying the bombs. What is the one issue that you care about that makes you think you have support biden no matter what? Or is it just that you are mad at Christians or something? Are you forced to attend a catholic high-school or something and this is your rebellion stage?
Because the alternative is they don't step down.
Except no, that's not the alternative. The party gets to choose the candidate. Biden tried to stay and they told him to get out the easy or the hard way.
You must have forgotten Biden not holding a primary.
What's "the hard way"?
They openly ditch him during the convention.
Donors already pulled out. Establishment called for him to step down voluntarily. if he doesn't listen he doesn't magically get to stay.
You don't know the (binding!) DNC rules? He had the delegates committed to him and couldn't have been forced out. And he didn't want to quit. It was a pressure campaign to make him look out of control, and he's always been better at negotiating behind closed doors than he is at PR so he couldn't fight back effectively. Pretty much a chicken race to see who backs down first.
From the timing of everything going on I suspect that with the combination of the media campaign, backstabbing in the party, him being sick x2 and tired, and finally a Republican convention and VP pick being newsworthily weird (and probably also with some commitments from others to back Kamala if he stepped down) I bet he thought there wouldn't be any better opportunity to do it.
(I was expecting the switch to end in chaos, somehow for once DNC managed to do something coordinated, DESPITE many donors also wanting to ditch Kamala)
I certainly hope Kamala will be harsher against Netanyahu and back the ICC rulings
If you think Biden could've been forced out if he wasn't willing to step down then you don't know anything about politics.
I bet you were one of those people demanding the sergeant at arms arrest people who ignored subpoenas during Trump's first impeachment.
Do you understand how the president is picked? They need delegates to run.
Do you know how Democrat canidates are picked? Biden already had enough pledged delegates to win the nomination.
Not holding a primary before the Democratic National Conventionis one way to try to coup it, but they could still just put in someone else in.
They did hold a primary. You might have not liked how they ran it. I had my own issues with it as well, but they did and once those votes are in the pledged delegates have to honor the winner from it, which Biden was. Tell me how they could have just taken it away from him without him stepping down again?
Biden pretended he was going to be a 1 term president but now tried to hijack it for a dual term.
Biden could give an official order to have anyone speaking out against him shot. Doesn't mean he will. But he can. Same goes for the voting honor system. We're just expecting nobody to break the unwritten rules. but unwritten rules that will get broken when needed.
Like how the white house will straight up lie about a Genocide being committed in order to violate Leahy law.
Just because you don't know the rules doesn't mean they are unwritten.
https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/2024-Delegate-Selection-Rules.pdf
Do you have a source for this? I seem to recall that was one article citing an off the record source within the Biden campaign, not an official statement from Biden.
Should be easy for you to find Biden himself saying this, as you're so well informed and definitely not a ball sniffer with west wing delusions