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If you felt “meh” about doing the utmost to avoid Trump, you might just be an idiot,
Remember, if they're voting in their first election this year, there's a decent chance they were under ten before Trump emerged on the scene as a politician. They don't remember what it used to be like. They think this is normal.
Shit, you're absolutely right but I never thought about it that way.
Jesus, we've let these kids down. This is all they've known through their adolescence...
There will be an entire branch of psychology opened up for kids who were born between 2006-2021. War, climate change, Trump, COVID, more war, more war? On its own, the fact that they're not spending every waking hour in ceaseless screaming is worth writing a few papers on.
I mean...lots of kids have had to deal with worse...my main frustration is that we could have given them so much better with relative ease.
My grandparents were born in the 30s, growing up in the Great Depression (all but one, who had the awful luck to be born in the Philippines, and instead of the depression, got to experience brutal Japanese occupation). That's far worse than what American kids as a demographic are growing up with now, but that was entirely out of the hands of their parents to avoid.
I feel like for today's teens, it's not that bad, but it's bad because of selfishness and greed rather than huge national or global tragedy.
I don't know that the two events are particularly comparable. The misery level might be higher for people like your grandparents, but the fact that some of what's going on now is happening inside the house during Thanksgiving dinner and another good chunk of it is being shown and talked about on YouTube as it happens, and a lot of people who are supposed to be protecting them aren't... The circumstances, access, and response is worse, even if the misery itself isn't as bad.
Still, I guess that illuminates how the "suffering Olympics" isn't super helpful to these discussions. Every generation has something, and just because another generation also suffered doesn't mean that this generation's suffering is invalid.
maybe your worldview is a liiiitle bit too US-centric, or at least too 1st-world centric? Ah, don't worry your mediocre little head about it!
We're literally talking about young US voters. This thread is about US politics. I recognize that Americans' americentrism online runs the gamut from annoying to problematic to outright jingoistic, but in this case I'm pretty sure I accurately recognized the topic at hand. Surely well enough not to merit an ad hominem.
aka the dumbest take.
Yes, and people call them idiots for wanting better than a Hobson's choice between "genocide" and "more genocide."
Just look at what happened when someone listened to them.
but but "gene o'side" LMAO
Thank you for the illustration of my point. Biden isn't running anymore. You can abandon your support for genocide. If you want to.
You mean real genocide or tankie illusional genocide? Because I’ll never support real muthafuckin’ G, but always point out the delusions of American antisemites like yourself.
You are glad that Netanyahu is committing genocide.
Like all centrists.
Nobody serious or educated is considering that a genocide. Only edgelord extremists and cowardly antisemites are
What Netanyahu is doing is genocide. Anyone who says otherwise is lying because they want it to run to completion.
As far as I'm aware, the ICC hasn't called the genocides perpetuated by China and Russia what they are either.
I'm sure you support them too. Genocide apologist.
Your logic is impeccable, how can I support a genocide that hasn't happened?
By denying an obvious genocide as it happens. Like you're doing here.
All you're doing is lying in support of genocide. It's all you are.
It's not genocide, you're just an extremist.
What other genocides do you deny?
Deny? None of the actual ones.
Bother someone else with your disgusting genocide apologia.
You keep replying, bro. That’s why we’re not done yet. Also if there’s no genocide I can’t be an apologist.
Have fun swimming upstream your whole life. You’re blocked.
Oh no. Blocked by a genocide denier. Whatever shall I do?
Fucking yikes. That's terrifying.
Young people are not renowned for their wisdom.
Yeah, kids are allowed to vote (and go off to war, and get themselves into crippling debt) at 18 but their decision making doesn't mature until after they're 25. Maybe adulthood should start a little later.
Something, something, rent a car. I definitely had something for this. Come back to me.
I can imagine it. I probably have made the same argument.
Their elders have done such a bang up job, eh. So much wisdom and here we all are blaming and knocking young people having to inherit all this bullshit.
speak for yourself
Neither are boomers, but we've spent the past 4 decades doing every last thing those shitheels want.
not really.
Then who have we been listening to? The party has been gleefully ignoring anyone who didn't watch the moon landing live.
Until just recently when Biden stepped aside.
Yes, but. Let's not circle the firing squad.
Not before they have voted.
Voting is not your utmost. It's the bare minimum.
To whoever downvoted this: You won't make it in life.
Biden wasn't the utmost to avoid Trump.