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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 87 points 1 month ago

I tried so hard to hear God. When I finally talked to my pastor about my doubts he said that reading the Bible would help. Reading the Bible made me doubt even more.

[-] ZarkleFarkle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Did you attempt to analyse the Bible in a logical way though? I don't believe in it personally, but someone I know is very adamant about being a Christian and thinks that the Bible essentially proves itself to be true.

The Bible is generally quite boring to read from cover to cover. A big part of the reason for this is that large sections of the Bible just tell you long family trees. The old testament also includes a lot of prophecies about Jesus and essentially what is supposed to happen in the new testament (if Jesus was really the messiah). Sections of the Bible like this aren't necessarily supposed to excite you that much, but if you think of the Bible as one compiled historical document, you can check its internal consistencies and think about where information might be missing.

As an example, Jesus' betrayer (who it wasn't said in the old testament would specifically be Judas), was predicted to get 30 silver pieces for betraying him. This was a quite specific prediction, especially if you knew he would be dealing with Roman currency. It's a bit like if we made up a new religion now and said that our messiah would appear in America and the betrayer would get $500. If that actually happened, it would be some evidence for our religion (or Christianity).

Of course we could say that 30 pieces of actual silver would have similar values across most (silver-backed) currency, which is unlike basically every world currency today. That might have been a reasonable prediction for what you would get for sending a criminal to be executed anyway. Also, we don't really know if Judas actually got 30 silver pieces if we're not gonna totally trust the Bible.

If you haven't checked out any of the "cross-referencing" of the Bible and just think it's an airy fairy thing about there being a God who performed miracles, then you're denying the Bible from a lot less logical of a position than the Christian I know who is always banging on about this stuff to me to try and convert me.

As a side note, I believe there are a limited number of other historical sources relating to the time period of the Bible, although most of these would either be quite irrelevant or they would be deemed Satanic by Christians.

[-] riquisimo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 month ago

If I was writing a fanfic sequel to the old testament I would call it the new testament and say that Judas was paid 30 silver.

I could write whatever I want. Most people back then couldn't read, and these stories had been passed down for generations by word of mouth.

All the animals of the earth can't fit on a wooden boat. There isn't enough water to flood the planet. Mankind isn't descended from two people. You can discredit the bible from early on, unless you just "because magic" it.

[-] Dravin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If I was writing a fanfic sequel to the old testament I would call it the new testament and say that Judas was paid 30 silver.

It makes me think of how Mormons will point to such connections between the Book of Mormon and the Bible as proof. You'd expect such connections both if it was what the faithful narrative claims it to be or if it was a creation pulled from a hat that was attempting to reference what came before.

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