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Biden to announce plans to reform US supreme court – report
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The problem is not presidential immunity. The problem is immunity and the president is just the highest profile job that has it. Politicians never do anything about the root cause, and only treat the symptoms.
Police officers get away with murder because their job gives them immunity. Ceos, shareholders and other corporate staff have immunity as well.
A president getting away with assassinating a political rival is just as unjust as letting a ceo get away with killing 346 people simply because their job gives them immunity for their actions.
Perfect should not be the enemy of Good. Reforming the entire system is not something that just happens. It takes several steps in the right direction and you have to start somewhere.
The entire system is beyond antiquated. Coupled with bureaucratic tendency to be self serving, leads me to believe "reformation" will look more like slow death, and further declining services.
I see no reason for optimism along the lines of "system reform", and history has no examples I can think of. Shit just gets worse and worse till people start killing people and try some new systems.
Suffrage didn't require violent overthrow of the entire system, neither did the New Deal, neither did the Civil Rights movement, neither did Medicare, neither did Gay Rights. No nothing is "solved", but everything is better than it was in 1900.
"IDK, maybe War will fix it" is far more unhelpful than working to make positive changes.
Ah, yes. The famously incrementalist New Deal and Medicare. The Civil Rights Movement? Incrementalism is setting a timetable for another man's freedom. We only got gay marriage because the courts did what the legislature was too incrementalist to feel like doing.
Sufferage, civil rights etc aren't institutions.
'idk, war will fix it" is a lazy-ass takeaway, but ok.
You're right, they're fundamental changes across multiple institutions.
"I can't think of examples" is a pretty lazy justification for "the only way out is violence".
The supreme court created both of those immunities as well.