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submitted 3 months ago by style99@lemm.ee to c/linux@lemmy.world

I just have to say, after having booted into Windows, that Linux is so much nicer than Windows when it comes to doing system "updates."

So, here I am, sitting in my chair for about 20 minutes looking at a mostly black screen and a highly dubious looking percentage number going up very slowly. It tells me that Windows is "updating" and that I should keep the computer turned on. Good thing I have the computer turned on or I wouldn't know that I shouldn't have it turned off, right?

Anyway, I start to think about how this experience goes in Linux. In my experience, I do "system" updates about once a month, and I can see each individual package being installed (if I glance away from my browser session, that is). In Windows, I have no choice but to sit here and wonder if the system will even work again.

Windows decides that it wants to update drivers, apparently (I honestly have no idea what it's doing, which is part of what pisses me off), because it reboots the computer. Then it reboots again. Then, eventually, everything goes back to the familiar Windows desktop. WTF?

How anyone could prefer Windows to Linux is truly a mystery to me.

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[-] superkret@feddit.org 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I ran both an immutable distro (which downloads an entirely new image for every update) and Arch (which if you let it sit for a while basically reinstalls everything in an update).

I have no fucking clue what even takes so long during Windows updates. Both the download and the installation are slow as hell.

[-] AnomalousBit@programming.dev 6 points 3 months ago

If I had to guess, it’s because of two things: windows creates a system restore point, which tracks every file the update touches, every time it installs an update (as opposed to something fast like ZFS or btrfs snapshots). Then it also keeps a prior version of anything system related on top of that, these outdated and insecure system libraries live on forever in the WinSxS folder. Imagine keeping an insanely bloated version of every system package installed, forever. I’ve seen WinSxS get to be over 80 gigabytes, of just old crusty shit.

[-] msage@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago

As a Gentoo user, I get irrationally angry whenever I see Windows updates around me.

Like when I recompile my entire system, it takes a bit, but the PC is responsive and I get to configure the software before it's updated.

[-] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 3 points 3 months ago

Which immutable distro and what was the user experience like when compared with a traditional one?

[-] superkret@feddit.org 5 points 3 months ago

Fedora Silverblue, and it was buggy and limiting.

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