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Regarding the “Rust” shooting.
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Are you saying that when someone puts a deadly weapon in your hands, you are instantly absolved of all responsibility for it because it's someone else's responsibility? Oh, they didn't TELL me the knife was sharp.
That's deliberately and painfully obtuse.
That’s literally an armorer’s job description.
... okay, but at what point do you take some personal responsibility??? Blindly saying "it was the armor's job description" is fantastically silly.
Dealership sells me the car in working and safe condition, I take said car and drive it into a crowd of people. Dealer is guilty?
I'm not absolving the armorer at all. She has a PILE of cupability here. But to absolve the actor of all responsibility and fault is ridiciulously misguided.
That example is a perfect example of why you don’t know what you are talking about.
I notice you didn't actually respond, just pulled out some classic logical fallacy.
I'm not absolving the armorer here.
You don't like the cars vs guns analogy, fine. I was just making it relatable to righties.
If you put something in my hands that is capable of killing a person, I'm going to be 100% sure of how not to kill a person with this thing.
Maybe it's a firework. The armorer has told me that when I light it, I have exactly 5 seconds to ditch it so I don't hurt anybody. The armorer is fully culpable here when the firework goes off in 1 second and blows off my hand. I am culpable when I take said firework, and throw it into the unsuspecting crowd. We are both culpable when the firework goes off early AND is tossed into the unsuspecting crowd.
This is like picking up a car after a tire shop puts on its winters and on the way home a tire falls off and kills someone.
Is it your fault for not checking that it was torqued right?