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Holy shit! It's one thing when fascist politicians and their other brainwashed supporters resist justice, but when soldiers attack soldiers, "potential civil war" isn't even hyperbole anymore!
In a country where almost all 18-21 year olds are in the army, you will have shit like that
Swiss here
No you don't
You need to rival people up by starting a mass genocide first. No one wants to have a war in Switzerland anyway, it's too hilly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderbund_War
An outcropping of the 30 Years War that ended with Swiss federalization. Helps when you have sharp political divides (in that case, Protestants killing Catholics) and young people driven to pick sides.
Israel is, similarly, experiencing sharp internal religious division between Reform Zionists and Orthodox branches.
Got anything more recent than 1847?
Nothing so dramatic as an outright civil war. But there's definitely a rising tide of youth violence which is reflected in an increasingly popular Swiss nationalist party.
This is in direct response to clashes between Swiss officials and migrant communities. Disparities between religious groups (in this case Christians and Muslims) are sparking more conflicts across the country.
Hey, I actually did a dissertation on that, so I am fairly informed to talk about this topic!
So few words, yet so many corrections.
and famously, this underlines my point about conscription fostering unity, the Tagsatzung always said that the soldiers of the Sonderbund were "eusi Brüedere" (our brothers), refused to use explosive ammo etc. (I could go on and on: Duffour refused to launch a surprise attack that would have been 100% successful to instead gamble and give them the opportunity to surrender because they didn't want to hurt their brothers. It went that far that radicals said he cared more about the lives of the Sonderbund than about the lives of the Tagsatzung)
All in all, less than 100 people died during this 3-week war and the country united again very quickly after it was over.
Regarding Israel: Like I said, I am from switzerland. I don't really know much on Israeli powerstruggles. All I know is: In Israel there are two groups of people.
And now before some asshole comes in: I do know a bit more about Israeli politics, but not more about its powerstruggles.