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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by cosecantphi@hexbear.net to c/movies@hexbear.net

I've been catching up with season 2 and honestly it's not half bad. It has cut out the worst shitty (often gross and misogynistic in nature) excesses of the original show while still retaining most if not all of the great character writing and great dialogue that the first four seasons of GoT had.

There's all this great early GoT style political intrigue retained to it as well. All of these lords and ladies and queens and kings are just terrible, awful people for most of the runtime while we've been getting increasing focus on how badly the very concept of monarchy forces the dirty laundry of one inbred family with pet nukes to take shape and brutalize not only the slowly starving smallfolk of King's Landing, but also the smallfolk throughout most of the surrounding empire.

The Lords of the Seven Kingdoms all exist in this web of familial ties that ensures their ultimate class solidarity, eventually dragging most of the continent into dragon war the aftermath of which resembles that of atomic bombs. Now we find two desperate peasants given dragons because Queen in Exile Rhaenyra needs to find someone capable of vibing with Vermithor and Silverwing, the second and third largest war dragons in existence. She ends up burning to death dozens of claimed Targaryen bastards to do this by locking them all in the Dragonmont and letting the dragons sort the rest. She watches this happen with bored disinterest, in contrast to the horror on her face when her highborn Queensguard Steffon Darklyn dies in a previous attempt to claim the dragon Seasmoke.

[Brief Spoilers for book events in this paragraph]

spoilerIn the book, after Hugh Hammer and Ulf White risk their lives to be her attack dog dragon riders, they never receive the kind of social elevation you'd expect for the people with the largest dragons on the continent. Rhaenyra does not want to deal with the political fallout of there being legitimized Targaryen bastards with bigger dragons than those of her sons, whom are also legitimized Targaryen bastards. Thus Hugh and Ulf plausibly retain some amount of class solidarity to the average smallfolk's plight and betray Rhaenyra to declare themselves Kings. I'm hoping the show has them join some Riverlander anti-Targaryen guerilla movements once they see the kind of atrocities they are expected to commit.

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[-] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

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I’m very intrigued by the smallfolk angle in the show, and how they’ll deal with the atrocities perpetrated by the dragonseeds

See, I genuinely think the show is taking a different more positive direction with Hugh Hammer and Ulf White. After betraying both the black and green Targaryen factions, they are described as possibly some of the most evil men to ever be given sudden, overwhelming power, and they use it to commit some of the worst atrocities throughout the dance save for perhaps Aemond's genocidal campaign in the Riverlands.

However, in the show Hugh Hammer is this genuinely honorable and brave working class guy desperately trying to get his wife out of poverty after their little daughter dies a preventable death due to this ongoing succession war.

And Ulf White just seems to be this silly little guy who tells wild stories in pubs for free booze and occasionally shoplifts, nothing like the vile, evil shit we hear of him in the book.

This kinda makes perfect sense. Fire and Blood is a history book written 200 years later by a Maester of the Citadel in Old Town, the seat of the Hightowers. Hugh and Ulf are the two characters in this story the book would be the most rabidly biased again, and I believe the show recognizes this. Excited to see where they take it.

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

Trueeee I hadn’t even considered that, despite my discussions with my partner focusing heavily on the difference between a historical narrative and a tv show retelling

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