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[-] UnityDevice@startrek.website 31 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It's easy to understand them when you realise that their entire ideology starts at "anything the US does or says is bad" and continues from there.

  • The US supports Taiwan and is against China? China good, Taiwan bad.
  • The US supports Ukraine and is against Russia? Russia good, Ukraine bad.
  • Israel, Palestine, same thing
  • Bosnian and Rwandan genocide happened? Well the US says so, therefore they didn't.
  • NATO bombed Serbia over their attempted genocide in Kosovo. NATO is the US, so Serbia didn't do anything wrong, but Kosovo is bad.
  • And so on, and so on...

Once you look at it through that lens, even their most wild takes suddenly become very consistent.

[-] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 months ago

But what is it about the US they are so against? What specific elements do they find so distasteful that drives the contrarian stance?

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 13 points 4 months ago

The US has been the grand champion of capitalism. That is a fair criticism to level against us. Its a criticism most of us share. We've done some fucked up shit and acted as a force multiplier making smaller conflicts into bigger conflicts with more killing and more suffering. We do this less because our politicians believe in doing the right thing and more because it maintains to neocolonial status quo. Where I draw the line with tankies though is that they are ALSO engaging in force multiplying neocolonialism. Russia is invading Ukraine right now because Putin is big mad about losing control of soviet colonial holdings. What I advocate for is a dismantling of both US capitalist colonialism AND Soviet Bolshevik colonialism. You can't be a tanky and Anticolonial, too

[-] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I’m not against critiquing capitalism at all I just literally did not know what the core objection was.

So it’s “capitalism is bad” but all social issues and issues of a violent state take a back seat to that?

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 months ago

Yeah that's pretty much their stance, as I understand it

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