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[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 32 points 2 years ago

Sigh, an efficiency commission sounds like a way to to form a group of loyalists who has the power to arbitrarily decide on policy for any government agency based on a loose definition of "efficiency".

A group like that could simply decide that a private company is allways more efficient than a government agency, or that a deregulated market is more efficient than a regulated market.

The goal of "efficiency" is increadibly vauge, while sounding positive.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 13 points 2 years ago

Efficiency = reduce costs

Minimum wage = labor cost

Eliminate Minimum wage = lower labors costs = Efficiency

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago

Getting rid of minimum wage can be good.

I know it sounds weird, but if a country has a legal minimum wage it removes tools from unions since companies can just tell the unions to pound sand.

Here in Sweden we don't have any minimum wage mandated by the government.

It is negotiated between the sector unions and employers.

Also sympathy strikes are legal here.

Whenever there have been talks about introducing a minimum wage in Sweden, unions have allways reacted negatively, as it would effectively prevent them from negotiating for higher wages, and a minimum wage would easily get stuck in the past.

I know that the US and Sweden are very different, and that in the current labor market in the US, removing a minimum wage would be a disaster, but I felt as if your conclusion that minimum wage is allways bad needed a counterpoint.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

unions have allways reacted negatively, as it would effectively prevent them from negotiating for higher wages,

Maybe take away power from the union, but the union can totally still negotiate a minimum wage if it want. The union I'm part (insurance workers of the state of São Paulo) have a minimum wage, higher that the state and national one.

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago

That is fair, I was absolutely projecting my Swedish biases in my earlier comment, sorry about that.

[-] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 4 points 2 years ago

Sometimes a union will promote the union interest rather than member interest. There is a current scandal about corrupt unions here in Australia. We have a national minimum wages and also award wages by sector and seniority, like hundreds of minimum wages.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Unions here also don't like universal healthcare here for the same reason.

It's not a good reason.

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